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Nice work, gives me very Micro Machines vibes for the NES. The only thing I don't like about PICO-8 is that its completely closed source. An open source alterna

Nice work, gives me very Micro Machines vibes for the NES. The only thing I don't like about PICO-8 is that its completely closed source. An open source alternative that seems very promising is Pyxel. It has similar retro / pixel art limitations, a built-in sprite editor, music tracker, etc. https://github.com/kitao/pyxel https://github.com/kitao/pyxel

jamesgeck0 3y ago
IIRC, the browser builds of Pyxel games end up pulling down 30mb+ of Python libraries, which seems a bit overkill for little pixel games. TIC-80 is probably the closest open source thing to PICO-8. The browser builds ran 10% slower than the desktop app last I tried. It doesn't have a "CPU budget," so it's possible to write inefficient code that works fine on powerful machines but not slower ones.
- vunderba 3y ago
  So I just ran a test deploy of a Pyxel little animated star field: https://gondolaprime.pw/games/starfield/index.html https://gondolaprime.pw/games/starfield/index.html Developer console shows approx ~7MB transferred. Still more than I would have expected for literally just a small looping animation but a bit better than 30MB at least. Maybe there's been some progress on this front. Thanks for the TIC-80 recommendation - I really like that it supports multiple langs (Lua, JS, Python, etc) - that's some great flexibility. EDIT: It looks like TIC-80 games pull a tic80.wasm file which is approximately ~6MB in size. I'd say Pyxel and TIC-80 are roughly comparable at least with respect to bundle size. https://tic80.com/js/1.1.2837/tic80.wasm https://tic80.com/js/1.1.2837/tic80.wasm
  - filleduchaos 3y ago
    > Developer console shows approx ~7MB transferred Bytes transferred over the wire don't equal actual file size (due to gzipping, etc). Your page actually weighs 21MB.
    - vunderba 3y ago
      Yes, I'm well aware of that - but your average viewer isn't going to notice expanded resources, however they ARE going to notice things like time-to-first-byte and network transfer. EDIT: Just to be clear since I can't edit the older comment - instead of bundle size it would have been better to say that the "network transfer size" is roughly comparable.
WithinReason 3y ago
There is also Nico, written in Nim therefore can be compiled for the Web or as a native binary: https://github.com/ftsf/nico https://github.com/ftsf/nico

jamesgeck0 3y ago

IIRC, the browser builds of Pyxel games end up pulling down 30mb+ of Python libraries, which seems a bit overkill for little pixel games. TIC-80 is probably the closest open source thing to PICO-8. The browser builds ran 10% slower than the desktop app last I tried. It doesn't have a "CPU budget," so it's possible to write inefficient code that works fine on powerful machines but not slower ones.

vunderba 3y ago
So I just ran a test deploy of a Pyxel little animated star field: https://gondolaprime.pw/games/starfield/index.html https://gondolaprime.pw/games/starfield/index.html Developer console shows approx ~7MB transferred. Still more than I would have expected for literally just a small looping animation but a bit better than 30MB at least. Maybe there's been some progress on this front. Thanks for the TIC-80 recommendation - I really like that it supports multiple langs (Lua, JS, Python, etc) - that's some great flexibility. EDIT: It looks like TIC-80 games pull a tic80.wasm file which is approximately ~6MB in size. I'd say Pyxel and TIC-80 are roughly comparable at least with respect to bundle size. https://tic80.com/js/1.1.2837/tic80.wasm https://tic80.com/js/1.1.2837/tic80.wasm
- filleduchaos 3y ago
  > Developer console shows approx ~7MB transferred Bytes transferred over the wire don't equal actual file size (due to gzipping, etc). Your page actually weighs 21MB.
  - vunderba 3y ago
    Yes, I'm well aware of that - but your average viewer isn't going to notice expanded resources, however they ARE going to notice things like time-to-first-byte and network transfer. EDIT: Just to be clear since I can't edit the older comment - instead of bundle size it would have been better to say that the "network transfer size" is roughly comparable.

WithinReason 3y ago

There is also Nico, written in Nim therefore can be compiled for the Web or as a native binary: https://github.com/ftsf/nico https://github.com/ftsf/nico