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I feel the same way about alcohol, it’s 20+ years behind the stigma curve though.

Jcampuzano2 3y ago
I also don't drink alcohol. Quit about 3 years ago after hearing how bad it also is for your health and just from hating the feeling the next morning. But I agree this one will be a harder one to kick.
- dmoy 3y ago
  I don't drink a lot of alcohol, but I make batches of kalja at home for daily consumption - probably 0.5% abv because I'm impatient and bad at it. (And I'm, uh, using bread yeast lol) It probably averages out to the equivalent of a beer every week or two.
officeplant 3y ago
My boss likes to say "wow you must be drinking some strong stuff on the weekends after this job." Because apparently that's the ideal way to cope with abusive workloads. In reality its just sleep, anime, and weed.
- always2slow 3y ago
  This is your boss subtly commenting that your weed use is noticeable.
  - officeplant 3y ago
    It's just old oilfield habits to these guys. He gets confused anytime someone doesn't line up with the old ways. (leading to long racist lunch rants)
- slily 3y ago
  He's not far off since you do cope with a depressant drug, just a different one with a different risk profile. And I don't know about you, but it tanks my productivity worse than alcohol all the way through the next day depending on the form. So maybe he's making a comment about that.
  - officeplant 3y ago
    Weed isn't wholly a depressant, nor is it classified as one due to the stimulant and hallucinogenic effects it also includes.
hiq 3y ago
The big difference is that you don't have to drink alcohol if an unknown person next to you is drinking, while passive smoking is a real thing. Granted, peer pressure leads people to drink more than they otherwise would, but it's still something you can fight against. There's no willpower that will help you against passive smoking. I'm not claiming that alcohol is better, just saying that in terms of getting of nuisances, you can choose to completely opt out of alcohol if you so choose, while in some places it's hard to completely avoid cigarette smoke from people around you.
- s_dev 3y ago
  Yes but alcohol is going have a far far bigger impact on their temperament and behaviour than even 100 cigarettes in a row.
- bill_joy_fanboy 3y ago
  Alcohol has negative social externalities just like cigarettes. People who drink often drive and make other bad decisions that don't just damage the drinker. The negative social externality may not be "second hand drinking", but it exists nonetheless.
  - kazinator 3y ago
    But you don't have to smoke and do something else to be harmful.
    - Domenic_S 3y ago
      Sure you do. Smoke and walk around in public. Smoke and stand in the middle of the sidewalk. etc
      - kazinator 3y ago
        The point is that these are not necessary. Someone is not harmed if you drink in the same room as them and do nothing else.
slily 3y ago
You're actually 100 years behind it.

I also don't drink alcohol. Quit about 3 years ago after hearing how bad it also is for your health and just from hating the feeling the next morning. But I agree this one will be a harder one to kick.

dmoy 3y ago
I don't drink a lot of alcohol, but I make batches of kalja at home for daily consumption - probably 0.5% abv because I'm impatient and bad at it. (And I'm, uh, using bread yeast lol) It probably averages out to the equivalent of a beer every week or two.

officeplant 3y ago

My boss likes to say "wow you must be drinking some strong stuff on the weekends after this job." Because apparently that's the ideal way to cope with abusive workloads. In reality its just sleep, anime, and weed.

always2slow 3y ago
This is your boss subtly commenting that your weed use is noticeable.
- officeplant 3y ago
  It's just old oilfield habits to these guys. He gets confused anytime someone doesn't line up with the old ways. (leading to long racist lunch rants)
slily 3y ago
He's not far off since you do cope with a depressant drug, just a different one with a different risk profile. And I don't know about you, but it tanks my productivity worse than alcohol all the way through the next day depending on the form. So maybe he's making a comment about that.
- officeplant 3y ago
  Weed isn't wholly a depressant, nor is it classified as one due to the stimulant and hallucinogenic effects it also includes.

hiq 3y ago

The big difference is that you don't have to drink alcohol if an unknown person next to you is drinking, while passive smoking is a real thing. Granted, peer pressure leads people to drink more than they otherwise would, but it's still something you can fight against. There's no willpower that will help you against passive smoking. I'm not claiming that alcohol is better, just saying that in terms of getting of nuisances, you can choose to completely opt out of alcohol if you so choose, while in some places it's hard to completely avoid cigarette smoke from people around you.

s_dev 3y ago
Yes but alcohol is going have a far far bigger impact on their temperament and behaviour than even 100 cigarettes in a row.
bill_joy_fanboy 3y ago
Alcohol has negative social externalities just like cigarettes. People who drink often drive and make other bad decisions that don't just damage the drinker. The negative social externality may not be "second hand drinking", but it exists nonetheless.
- kazinator 3y ago
  But you don't have to smoke and do something else to be harmful.
  - Domenic_S 3y ago
    Sure you do. Smoke and walk around in public. Smoke and stand in the middle of the sidewalk. etc
    - kazinator 3y ago
      The point is that these are not necessary. Someone is not harmed if you drink in the same room as them and do nothing else.

slily 3y ago

You're actually 100 years behind it.