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As a reference. Currently an MRI scan can go from $400-$2000 (mostly covered by insurance) https://scan.com/body-parts/breast https://scan.com/body-parts/breast

by yakito 3y ago

As a reference. Currently an MRI scan can go from $400-$2000 (mostly covered by insurance) https://scan.com/body-parts/breast https://scan.com/body-parts/breast An MRI machine cost arounds $350.000 on average. https://www.blockimaging.com https://www.blockimaging.com

ImageXav 3y ago
A device such as this would never replace an MRI scan. The information provided is for screening purposes, at best. Also, diagnosis would typically be done using a mammography. The cost of such a scan is lower - around $100[0]. [0]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4142190/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4142190/
- bluGill 3y ago
  It doesn't have to replace it in all cases. If it can give a good indication that we don't have to do a MRI that is already a good thing.
  - ImageXav 3y ago
    That's right, that's typically what is meant by screening purposes [0], apologies if it wasn't clear. [0] https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/nhs-screening/ https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/nhs-screening/
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      The unclear part was more the phrase "would never replace an MRI scan". But it's clear now.
- sparklingmango 3y ago
  Diagnosis is done via biopsy.
  - ImageXav 3y ago
    That is correct, my bad. The next screen after a test like this would likely be a mammography, and only after that would a biopsy be done if anything suspicious was seen.
lofatdairy 3y ago
Better reference would be an ELISA test (which is actually brought up as the reference in the paper)[^1]. That seems to also run about $5 per kit per antigen[^2]. However this device seems to only require the test strip to be replaced, whereas you can only run ELISA once per strip/reagents. Also note that ELISA is harder to run so you have personnel costs and also this device claims higher sensitivity. [^1]: https://pubs.aip.org/avs/jvb/article/42/2/023202/3262988/High-sensitivity-saliva-based-biosensor-in https://pubs.aip.org/avs/jvb/article/42/2/023202/3262988/Hig... [^2]: https://www.thermofisher.com/elisa/product/ErbB2-HER2-Human-ELISA-Kit/EHERBB2 https://www.thermofisher.com/elisa/product/ErbB2-HER2-Human-..., note that I didn't shop around for necessarily the best prices.
aeyes 3y ago
MRI is very rarely used for breast cancer screening. Mammography is much cheaper.

by yakito 3y ago

ImageXav 3y ago

A device such as this would never replace an MRI scan. The information provided is for screening purposes, at best. Also, diagnosis would typically be done using a mammography. The cost of such a scan is lower - around $100[0]. [0]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4142190/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4142190/

bluGill 3y ago
It doesn't have to replace it in all cases. If it can give a good indication that we don't have to do a MRI that is already a good thing.
- ImageXav 3y ago
  That's right, that's typically what is meant by screening purposes [0], apologies if it wasn't clear. [0] https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/nhs-screening/ https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/nhs-screening/
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    The unclear part was more the phrase "would never replace an MRI scan". But it's clear now.
sparklingmango 3y ago
Diagnosis is done via biopsy.
- ImageXav 3y ago
  That is correct, my bad. The next screen after a test like this would likely be a mammography, and only after that would a biopsy be done if anything suspicious was seen.

lofatdairy 3y ago

Better reference would be an ELISA test (which is actually brought up as the reference in the paper)[^1]. That seems to also run about $5 per kit per antigen[^2]. However this device seems to only require the test strip to be replaced, whereas you can only run ELISA once per strip/reagents. Also note that ELISA is harder to run so you have personnel costs and also this device claims higher sensitivity. [^1]: https://pubs.aip.org/avs/jvb/article/42/2/023202/3262988/High-sensitivity-saliva-based-biosensor-in https://pubs.aip.org/avs/jvb/article/42/2/023202/3262988/Hig... [^2]: https://www.thermofisher.com/elisa/product/ErbB2-HER2-Human-ELISA-Kit/EHERBB2 https://www.thermofisher.com/elisa/product/ErbB2-HER2-Human-..., note that I didn't shop around for necessarily the best prices.

aeyes 3y ago

MRI is very rarely used for breast cancer screening. Mammography is much cheaper.