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>Like it or not, this means that Linux isn't "a Unix-like OS" any more. It is a Unix. This needs to be corrected. Two Chinese centOS distros passing the Unix t

>Like it or not, this means that Linux isn't "a Unix-like OS" any more. It is a Unix. This needs to be corrected. Two Chinese centOS distros passing the Unix test does not make all of Linux and its distros "Unix".

lproven 3y ago
I disagree. If one distro can pass the test, then in principle, any distro can. If two distros passed, then it is case closed. The entire point of the argument is not "can Linux pass?" but "will anyone pay to put Linux through the test?" And the answer is yes, repeatedly, although not any more, and who can blame them. Unix has meant "passes the compatibility test" for ⅓ of a century. Linux passed. Once a Unix, always a Unix. It's Unix. FWIW the time to protest was a year ago when I wrote the "Unix is dead" story. Here was the brief discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34412022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34412022
- assimpleaspossi 3y ago
  Linux is only the kernel. To pass the Unix certification: https://www.opengroup.org/membership/forums/platform/unix https://www.opengroup.org/membership/forums/platform/unix >The specification encompasses the base operating system environment, networking services, windowing system services, and internationalization aspects and programming languages.
  - lproven 3y ago
    I still disagree. I am not saying "all distros have passed." They haven't. I am saying "all distros _could_ pass, if anyone cared enough to pay." Do you think you can falsify that?
    - assimpleaspossi 3y ago
      All distros MIGHT pass if they meet the qualifications but just because these two distros passed does NOT mean ALL Linux distros can pass and it doesn't mean any other distros can pass.
      - lproven 3y ago
        I disagree, and it seems to me that you are using words in senses other than their strict meanings, but I can see this is a big deal to you, and life is too short to argue over something which to me is unimportant.

lproven 3y ago

I disagree. If one distro can pass the test, then in principle, any distro can. If two distros passed, then it is case closed. The entire point of the argument is not "can Linux pass?" but "will anyone pay to put Linux through the test?" And the answer is yes, repeatedly, although not any more, and who can blame them. Unix has meant "passes the compatibility test" for ⅓ of a century. Linux passed. Once a Unix, always a Unix. It's Unix. FWIW the time to protest was a year ago when I wrote the "Unix is dead" story. Here was the brief discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34412022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34412022

assimpleaspossi 3y ago
Linux is only the kernel. To pass the Unix certification: https://www.opengroup.org/membership/forums/platform/unix https://www.opengroup.org/membership/forums/platform/unix >The specification encompasses the base operating system environment, networking services, windowing system services, and internationalization aspects and programming languages.
- lproven 3y ago
  I still disagree. I am not saying "all distros have passed." They haven't. I am saying "all distros _could_ pass, if anyone cared enough to pay." Do you think you can falsify that?
  - assimpleaspossi 3y ago
    All distros MIGHT pass if they meet the qualifications but just because these two distros passed does NOT mean ALL Linux distros can pass and it doesn't mean any other distros can pass.
    - lproven 3y ago
      I disagree, and it seems to me that you are using words in senses other than their strict meanings, but I can see this is a big deal to you, and life is too short to argue over something which to me is unimportant.