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Whatever they manage to eek out in the EU, is the future of what iOS will be in the US and worldwide eventually. If they go with fully fledged PWAs that the oth

Whatever they manage to eek out in the EU, is the future of what iOS will be in the US and worldwide eventually. If they go with fully fledged PWAs that the other browser engines will enable - there’s little reason to use the Appstore, hence Apple losing their 30% commission. From their perspective it’s not so much throwing a tantrum but clawing and screaming their way into giving up as little revenue as possible.

jkestner 3y ago
And as a developer, I see how I'm going to be collateral damage, and am less likely to do anything that gives Apple more power over me and my customers. If that means a bookmarked web app, so be it.
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bloppe 3y ago
Idk if you have kids, but tantrums usually involve trying to claw and scream your way into not giving something up
nonethewiser 3y ago
It could very easily be worth it to maintain a gimped iOS for Europe. We’re talking about a lot of money here.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
We also know 70% of revenue comes from games. And there's no way proper game is going run on a PWA. I also invoke Android again... PWAs exist, Google still holds the lions share. Google has freaked out about it too and is being sanctioned as we speak for it, but most customers simply aren't going to look for an alt app store outside of niche uses.
- sakjur 3y ago
  If we’re looking at a game that doesn’t use a lot of hardware resources like Candy Crush or Angry Birds, those could possibly run quite well as a PWA?
  - lxgr 3y ago
    In particular, all game streaming services (Geforce Now, Xbox Game Pass etc.) have until very recently needed to exist as PWAs since Apple would not let them into the App Store. The crucial PWA feature here is being able to display them in full screen, without Safari's navigation bar.
- NorwegianDude 3y ago
  Some games work really well as a PWA. Acquiring users is much cheaper too compared to an app.

jkestner 3y ago

And as a developer, I see how I'm going to be collateral damage, and am less likely to do anything that gives Apple more power over me and my customers. If that means a bookmarked web app, so be it.

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bloppe 3y ago

Idk if you have kids, but tantrums usually involve trying to claw and scream your way into not giving something up

nonethewiser 3y ago

It could very easily be worth it to maintain a gimped iOS for Europe. We’re talking about a lot of money here.

johnnyanmac 3y ago

We also know 70% of revenue comes from games. And there's no way proper game is going run on a PWA. I also invoke Android again... PWAs exist, Google still holds the lions share. Google has freaked out about it too and is being sanctioned as we speak for it, but most customers simply aren't going to look for an alt app store outside of niche uses.

sakjur 3y ago
If we’re looking at a game that doesn’t use a lot of hardware resources like Candy Crush or Angry Birds, those could possibly run quite well as a PWA?
- lxgr 3y ago
  In particular, all game streaming services (Geforce Now, Xbox Game Pass etc.) have until very recently needed to exist as PWAs since Apple would not let them into the App Store. The crucial PWA feature here is being able to display them in full screen, without Safari's navigation bar.
NorwegianDude 3y ago
Some games work really well as a PWA. Acquiring users is much cheaper too compared to an app.