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I'm eating raw chicken every day for 100 days – or until I'm hospitalized
- r0ckarong 3y agoThis is the same as the "we don't need vaccines because nobody gets sick" argument. Eating chicken from a well controlled supply chain probably won't make you sick. Wow, such bravery.
- xeromal 3y agoDude has some nads, I'll give him that. I won't touch chicken unless it's jerky.
- giuliomagnifico 3y agoThis could be an interesting experiment (and dangerous for him) but he absolutely doesn’t say what the purpose is. I don’t quite understand why is doing that.
- fallinghawks 3y agoAttention. Clicks. Social media is full of people doing stupid stuff for that.
- giuliomagnifico 3y agoSo, as I said, “he’s doing it without any reason”.
- rsynnott 3y ago> John, who is not sharing his surname for privacy reasons Presumably in case it should be held against him by a life insurance provider in the future.
- andsoitis 3y agoOr more likely an internet mob harassing the guy. Keeping his identity secret is a good move (although, why talk to a journalist because that signals you’re looking for publicity in some manner) but his decision to eat raw chicken is less wise (this is not Japan).
- rsynnott 3y agoEven in Japan, it's discouraged by the food safety authorities. It's just not a great idea in any context; guaranteeing it salmonella free is a very tall order, and salmonella isn't even the only relevant pathogen. But also, er, "poisoning yourself" seems like an unlikely trigger for an internet mob going after you?
- mcphage 3y ago> although, why talk to a journalist because that signals you’re looking for publicity in some manner He's documenting it on Instagram, so yes, looking for publicity is part of this.
- OJFord 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39375177 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39375177 (yesterday, 1 comment)
- teddyh 3y ago> “I don’t think it’s the raw chicken itself that will kill you, it’s more what they’re doing to the animals in the factory farms” Salmonella is a hoax now?
- thsksbd 3y agoWhere does salmonella come from? Where does the TB in raw milk come from? Unsanitary modern farming.
- soco 3y agoTB didn't appear with factory farming, nor salmonella. It's about unsanitary farming, period. Poultry scratching through dirt won't be exactly sanitary, no matter how traditional we'd consider it.
- bluGill 3y agoModern farming is more sanitary than any previous time farming. Sanitary conditions are cheaper than having to destroy a thousands/millions of sick animals - you are not allowed to sell sick animals for meat and any disease in a barn will spread fast so modern farmers take bio security seriously.
- aeternum 3y agoYou're also putting a lot of trust in the immune system of the animal you're eating. Sure most are fine but you'll eventually get one that is just naturally immunocompromised and when you do, you're in for a bad time no matter what kind of dreamy free-range life it led.
- rsynnott 3y agoSalmonella is also common amongst wild birds. While some other pathogens are primarily a 'modern farming' problem, salmonella is not; there has never been a time when it's particularly safe to eat raw chicken. (Actually, modern farming has cut down on salmonella a lot through vaccinating the chickens for it... but not in the US, so this guy is out of luck.)
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- GenerWork 3y agoOf course this person is from Florida. People down here are simply built differently.
- hyperific 3y agoYou know when the headline starts with "Florida man" it's going to be something wild.
- bluGill 3y agoFlorida has the third largest population. They don't really have more insane people per capita than any other state, but they large population means they have a lot of them.
- bryanlarsen 3y agoI was under the impression that the main reason for the "Florida Man" stereotype was that Florida police reports are public information whereas in other states they're more private. Therefore the number of crazy police reports circulating is much higher for Florida. Not sure how much truth there is to that.
- kennethrc 3y agoThat's my understanding too. The "Sunshine Laws", IIRC
- thsksbd 3y agoRaw chicken... from a specialized food supplier he trusts not to give him a carcass that had been festering in feces for a few days before packaging. Ya, I'll eat that raw chicken too!
- rsynnott 3y agoThat's not really how salmonella in particular works; good handling might protect him against listeria, but is unlikely to help much with salmonella.
- timr 3y agoThe sickest I've been in my life was after having chicken sashimi (from a specialty restaurant in Japan where they raise the chickens for the purpose, butcher them carefully, etc). I spent a bit over a week splitting time running between the bedroom and the bathroom; there were days where I could barely drag myself out of bed for the latter. And without getting too detailed, have you ever had a moment where you needed a bucket next to the toilet? Yeah. It was pretty tasty, but I don't think it was delicious enough to justify the aftermath.
- dudeinjapan 3y agoDitto. Its called “campylobacter”. Ive gotten it twice. The second time was from undercooked yakitori at a food stall and I knew exactly what was coming on, so got the medicine right away.
- whartung 3y ago> have you ever had a moment where you needed a bucket next to the toilet? Why yes, yes I have. Was but one leg of my journey to discover I have some allergy to clams. Thankfully, the bathtub was close enough to the toilet to make a useful and convenient destination.
- djsavvy 3y ago> CDC estimates that every year in the United States about 1 million people get sick from eating contaminated poultry. [1] That seems at least 10x higher than I'd expect. I'm surprised it's that high. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/chicken.html https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/chicken.html
- dmarchand90 3y agoLess than .3% of the population getting sick from contaminated poultry seems very reasonable?
- levocardia 3y ago[dead]
- vuln 3y agoNot hard when the average American eats 96-113lbs of chicken a year. That’s about 8 billion chickens… American eat more chicken than red meat, chicken is also a cheaper protein than red meat. https://www.statista.com/statistics/183645/per-capita-consumption-of-poultry-in-the-us-since-2000/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/183645/per-capita-consum... https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22287530/chicken-beef-factory-farming-plant-based-meats https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22287530/chicken-beef-fac...
- _yb2s 3y agoPost title should be changed to “Florida Man eating raw chicken…”
- sdwr 3y agoIllustrates that rules don't have to be absolute. Safety regulations are lowest-common-denominator, multiple failsafe type of things, designed to work for a population of millions. If you trust yourself and your supply chain, you can push past the normal limits.
- dayofthedaleks 3y agoHe may have innate or adaptive immunity to salmonella already. I wonder how many dice rolls it would take to hit one of the antibiotic-resistant strains that are able to prevent immune system response.
- andrew-dc 3y agoGoodlord, or you could just stand relaxed and undefended while a prize boxer sends pile drivers into your gut.
- slig 3y agoWaiting for the Chubbyemu video: A man ate raw chicken every day for 100 days. This is what happened to his brain.
- captainkrtek 3y agoJohn, presents to the emergency room…
- paddy_m 3y agoHis instagram channel for those interested https://www.instagram.com/rawchickenexperiment/ https://www.instagram.com/rawchickenexperiment/
- randerson 3y agoNot saying he's cheating for clicks and I assume this is real. But unless you see him buying and unpackaging the chicken [I can't stomach watching this so I don't know if he does], he could _theoretically_ cook it at 130F for a few hours, which would have a texture very close to raw while being safe to eat.
- monetus 3y ago> What’s the worst thing that’s gonna happen? Famous last words.
- johnea 3y agoSome people just have WAY too much time on their hands...
- amriksohata 3y agoCan some explain to me why eating raw meat was a thing considered to be done by hunter gatherers if it makes people really sick? This would have had to happen before age of discovery of fire/heat
- joh6nn 3y agoit's unlikely to make you sick every time, but when it does make you sick, then it has the potential to make you very sick. Depending on which kind of meat/microbes+parasites, it can be fatal if you don't have access to antibiotics, etc. So most of the time they would be fine, but some of the time it would be a contributing factor to their shorter (compared to us) average life expectancy When you look at animals that that do eat raw meat, it's super common for domestic animals (ie, those that live on farms, in zoos, etc) to have longer lifespans than their wild counterparts, in part because the meat they eat is less likely to have parasites and high-risk microbes than meat in the wild. So even when a given species is adapted to eat raw meat, it still comes with risks. But beyond that, modern humans are less well adapted to eat raw meat than our hunter-gatherer ancestors. That's not to say we can't, we obviously can. But IIRC (I'm not an expert, I might be getting this wrong), the advent of cooking our food was like 1.5-2 Million years ago, more than enough time for us to have evolved changes to our digestion and parasite/microbe resistance that make it less safe for us to eat raw food. And since cooking takes extra time and effort compared to eating food raw, presumably the reason that our ancestors bothered is because it conferred some advantage. One of the most likely advantages that could have been is that it made meat safer
- punyearthling 3y agoI love this for him.
- imartin2k 3y agoThe desire for social media fame is pushing people to do increasingly dumb things.