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What one individual might view as transphobia another would view as radical feminism. The world's not as black and white as you make it out to be.

by tjpnz 3y ago

madeofpalk 3y ago
yikes oops i accidentally terfed myself
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- ben_w 3y ago
  The initialism "TERF" means "trans-exclusionary radical feminism"; I'm sure those who hold these views see themselves as being "just" radical feminists — the way the discussions go, it seems to me people with these views are unable to comprehend that the model they have of what gender is, is one of several, or that there is any value in the models they do not themselves have.
  - merfing 3y ago
    There's only room for one model when it comes to deciding who gets to use which space though. For example, should a male convict who identifies as a woman be incarcerated in the female prison estate or the male one? There's not really room for several models of sex and gender in answering that question, as there's a single choice to be made with two mutually exclusive options.
    - ben_w 3y ago
      > There's only room for one model when it comes to deciding who gets to use which space though. One model per space. For example, the answer to "given how much testosterone is now in their body, which gender sports team should this F2M person be on?" is different to "which do we need to screen them for, testicular cancer or cervical cancer?" > For example, should a male convict who identifies as a woman be incarcerated in the female prison estate or the male one? There's not really room for several models of sex and gender in answering that question, as there's a single choice to be made with two mutually exclusive options. Four[0] options, if you think outside the box. Ideally, I would have my prisons set up with enough guards that this doesn't matter. As I don't live in the ideal world, I would also have a[0] trans estate for those who have begun but not yet completed transitioning, and those who have completed a transition would be in whatever the new gender is. [0] or +1, if M2F != F2M while transitioning

What one individual might view as transphobia another would view as radical feminism. The world's not as black and white as you make it out to be.

by tjpnz 3y ago

What one individual might view as transphobia another would view as radical feminism. The world's not as black and white as you make it out to be.

madeofpalk 3y ago

yikes oops i accidentally terfed myself

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ben_w 3y ago
The initialism "TERF" means "trans-exclusionary radical feminism"; I'm sure those who hold these views see themselves as being "just" radical feminists — the way the discussions go, it seems to me people with these views are unable to comprehend that the model they have of what gender is, is one of several, or that there is any value in the models they do not themselves have.
- merfing 3y ago
  There's only room for one model when it comes to deciding who gets to use which space though. For example, should a male convict who identifies as a woman be incarcerated in the female prison estate or the male one? There's not really room for several models of sex and gender in answering that question, as there's a single choice to be made with two mutually exclusive options.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    > There's only room for one model when it comes to deciding who gets to use which space though. One model per space. For example, the answer to "given how much testosterone is now in their body, which gender sports team should this F2M person be on?" is different to "which do we need to screen them for, testicular cancer or cervical cancer?" > For example, should a male convict who identifies as a woman be incarcerated in the female prison estate or the male one? There's not really room for several models of sex and gender in answering that question, as there's a single choice to be made with two mutually exclusive options. Four[0] options, if you think outside the box. Ideally, I would have my prisons set up with enough guards that this doesn't matter. As I don't live in the ideal world, I would also have a[0] trans estate for those who have begun but not yet completed transitioning, and those who have completed a transition would be in whatever the new gender is. [0] or +1, if M2F != F2M while transitioning