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That's bad advice, given how expensive it is to upgrade later. You aren't gonna convince people familiar with Django that your API library is a Django replacem

by winrid 3y ago

That's bad advice, given how expensive it is to upgrade later. You aren't gonna convince people familiar with Django that your API library is a Django replacement. That's like saying Express.js replaces Spring. Well, no...

colesantiago 3y ago
Also in my experience Django is extremely slow generally than Flask or FastAPI. Even placing a CDN in front of Django doesn’t help in that regard. With that being said, not many people upgrade their dependencies that much anyway for Flask / FastAPI.
- winrid 3y ago
  > Also in my experience Django is extremely slow generally than Flask or FastAPI. Nobody cares. Seriously. I can handle 100rps on a $5 server for most of the pages on my Django sites. Do you know how many $100m+ ARR businesses I've worked for that never hit 100rps on a regular basis? Most of them. > for Flask / FastAPI What about the dozen other dependencies you now need to use? and now you need to test those upgrades carefully, because python.
  - colesantiago 3y ago
    > Nobody cares... Seriously. I can handle 100rps on a $5 server for most of the pages on my Django sites. Do you know how many $100m+ ARR businesses I've worked for that never hit 100rps on a regular basis? Most of them. I dunno, my clients paying my business care, speed is important in certain sectors such as mine. I run and own a pest control SaaS on Flask that pulls in $1.7M+ ARR, when you're an upstart, speed is an advantage, I would imagine the $100m+ ARR business you worked for would be slow anyway. > What about the dozen other dependencies you now need to use? and now you need to test those upgrades carefully, because python. I just pin my dependencies, and since I'm making money it just runs itself really.
    - winrid 3y ago
      I should have rephrased it as "nobody picking Django cares". People pick Django because of how quickly you can build something valuable. Everyone knows it's slow IMO. > when you're an upstart, speed is an advantage, Yes, this is kind of the whole point of FastComments :) but still, the SLAs are like 30ms for most endpoints. I wouldn't use Django for this - but I wouldn't (didn't) choose Python either. > I just pin my dependencies, and since I'm making money it just runs itself really. Pinning is good. Never updating them is bad, gets a lot harder later.

by winrid 3y ago

colesantiago 3y ago

Also in my experience Django is extremely slow generally than Flask or FastAPI. Even placing a CDN in front of Django doesn’t help in that regard. With that being said, not many people upgrade their dependencies that much anyway for Flask / FastAPI.

winrid 3y ago
> Also in my experience Django is extremely slow generally than Flask or FastAPI. Nobody cares. Seriously. I can handle 100rps on a $5 server for most of the pages on my Django sites. Do you know how many $100m+ ARR businesses I've worked for that never hit 100rps on a regular basis? Most of them. > for Flask / FastAPI What about the dozen other dependencies you now need to use? and now you need to test those upgrades carefully, because python.
- colesantiago 3y ago
  > Nobody cares... Seriously. I can handle 100rps on a $5 server for most of the pages on my Django sites. Do you know how many $100m+ ARR businesses I've worked for that never hit 100rps on a regular basis? Most of them. I dunno, my clients paying my business care, speed is important in certain sectors such as mine. I run and own a pest control SaaS on Flask that pulls in $1.7M+ ARR, when you're an upstart, speed is an advantage, I would imagine the $100m+ ARR business you worked for would be slow anyway. > What about the dozen other dependencies you now need to use? and now you need to test those upgrades carefully, because python. I just pin my dependencies, and since I'm making money it just runs itself really.
  - winrid 3y ago
    I should have rephrased it as "nobody picking Django cares". People pick Django because of how quickly you can build something valuable. Everyone knows it's slow IMO. > when you're an upstart, speed is an advantage, Yes, this is kind of the whole point of FastComments :) but still, the SLAs are like 30ms for most endpoints. I wouldn't use Django for this - but I wouldn't (didn't) choose Python either. > I just pin my dependencies, and since I'm making money it just runs itself really. Pinning is good. Never updating them is bad, gets a lot harder later.