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So much for “free speech”. Ever since Musk met with Netanyahu, X has been heavily censoring pro-Palestine content.

dzhiurgis 3y ago
How come he’s being called antisemite then. Or like being blamed for not supplying but also supplying starlink to Russian territory
- clipsy 3y ago
  > Or like being blamed for not supplying but also supplying starlink to Russian territory Gosh, I wonder if there was some other difference that people were concerned about /s
- bluefishinit 3y ago
  Antisemitism and Zionism aren’t mutually exclusive. Zionism != Judaism.
- candiodari 3y ago
  It's really quite simple, he endorsed a post that blamed NON-Israeli Jews for being attacked outside of Israel due to Gaza. Specifically this one: https://twitter.com/breakingbaht/status/1724892505647296620 https://twitter.com/breakingbaht/status/1724892505647296620 This is racist, first because it's close to justifying violence against Jews, because of their religion, because of something a country did. Again, nobody would doubt "muslims deserve to be attacked because of what is happening in Sudan" is extremely racist. This is close to that. And let's please make one thing clear: physically attacking zionists, or justifying that, because of Gaza is also extremely racist. Secondly it's accusing "those hordes of minorities that support flooding their country" (ie. muslim immigrants) of being violent racists. What DOESN'T matter is whether either of these are true behaviors seen in those groups. You're a racist if you say that either attacking Jews because of Israel is valid (obviously) and you're a racist if you say that muslim immigrants (even veiled) are antisemitic as a group. Saying SPECIFIC Jews are going too far, or SPECIFIC muslim immigrants are a serious piece of racist asshole is not racist.
  - khokhol 3y ago
    A post that blamed NON-Israeli Jews for being attacked outside of Israel due to Gaza. It was definitely a piece of obnoxious drivel, the post. But that's not what it said.
za3faran 3y ago
We see accounts on twitter openly call for genocide on the Palestinians, to turn Gaza into a parking lot, posts comparing the Palestinians to rats (classic genocide 101, and sadly ironic given what happened in WWII germany), and utter dehumanization of Palestinians and Muslims in general, yet the accounts are not banned nor reprimanded. That meeting was extremely suspicious to say the least, and no doubt what we're seeing is a result of it.
- quotz 3y ago
  My opinion is that he got seriously blackmailed. Musk meets Netayahu 27 Nov, and on 12 December its announced that SpaceX loses appeal for 1B in funding from the FCC regarding Starlink. There's probably lots of variables for losing the appeal, but considering how far the isreali lobby goes I really wont be surprised that they had influence, considering he was making Starlink available in Gaza for free. And this is just the surface we can see, I wonder how far the rabbit hole goes, hes probably in the top 5 most famous people in the world, whatever he says online will reverberate far, hence the israeli top priority being to change his mind carrot or stick. In addition, he admitted to having a mild form of Aspergers, so I guess social pressure and persuasion definitely impacts him differently than neurotypical folks.
  - za3faran 3y ago
    Exactly. God knows what happened behind closed doors. I hope the truth emerges one day.
    - francoispon 3y ago
      since when we do politics on HN ? those discussions are not going to resolve anything, maybe we should stick to you talk about hacker news ?
      - hypeit 3y ago
        Politics came to the tech community in the form of Israeli manipulation of tech platforms and militant, blacklisting Zionism from the VCs. Israel caused this.

How come he’s being called antisemite then. Or like being blamed for not supplying but also supplying starlink to Russian territory

clipsy 3y ago
> Or like being blamed for not supplying but also supplying starlink to Russian territory Gosh, I wonder if there was some other difference that people were concerned about /s
bluefishinit 3y ago
Antisemitism and Zionism aren’t mutually exclusive. Zionism != Judaism.
candiodari 3y ago
It's really quite simple, he endorsed a post that blamed NON-Israeli Jews for being attacked outside of Israel due to Gaza. Specifically this one: https://twitter.com/breakingbaht/status/1724892505647296620 https://twitter.com/breakingbaht/status/1724892505647296620 This is racist, first because it's close to justifying violence against Jews, because of their religion, because of something a country did. Again, nobody would doubt "muslims deserve to be attacked because of what is happening in Sudan" is extremely racist. This is close to that. And let's please make one thing clear: physically attacking zionists, or justifying that, because of Gaza is also extremely racist. Secondly it's accusing "those hordes of minorities that support flooding their country" (ie. muslim immigrants) of being violent racists. What DOESN'T matter is whether either of these are true behaviors seen in those groups. You're a racist if you say that either attacking Jews because of Israel is valid (obviously) and you're a racist if you say that muslim immigrants (even veiled) are antisemitic as a group. Saying SPECIFIC Jews are going too far, or SPECIFIC muslim immigrants are a serious piece of racist asshole is not racist.
- khokhol 3y ago
  A post that blamed NON-Israeli Jews for being attacked outside of Israel due to Gaza. It was definitely a piece of obnoxious drivel, the post. But that's not what it said.

za3faran 3y ago

We see accounts on twitter openly call for genocide on the Palestinians, to turn Gaza into a parking lot, posts comparing the Palestinians to rats (classic genocide 101, and sadly ironic given what happened in WWII germany), and utter dehumanization of Palestinians and Muslims in general, yet the accounts are not banned nor reprimanded. That meeting was extremely suspicious to say the least, and no doubt what we're seeing is a result of it.

quotz 3y ago
My opinion is that he got seriously blackmailed. Musk meets Netayahu 27 Nov, and on 12 December its announced that SpaceX loses appeal for 1B in funding from the FCC regarding Starlink. There's probably lots of variables for losing the appeal, but considering how far the isreali lobby goes I really wont be surprised that they had influence, considering he was making Starlink available in Gaza for free. And this is just the surface we can see, I wonder how far the rabbit hole goes, hes probably in the top 5 most famous people in the world, whatever he says online will reverberate far, hence the israeli top priority being to change his mind carrot or stick. In addition, he admitted to having a mild form of Aspergers, so I guess social pressure and persuasion definitely impacts him differently than neurotypical folks.
- za3faran 3y ago
  Exactly. God knows what happened behind closed doors. I hope the truth emerges one day.
  - francoispon 3y ago
    since when we do politics on HN ? those discussions are not going to resolve anything, maybe we should stick to you talk about hacker news ?
    - hypeit 3y ago
      Politics came to the tech community in the form of Israeli manipulation of tech platforms and militant, blacklisting Zionism from the VCs. Israel caused this.