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3% is a pretty big reduction for such a simple thing...

• baggy_trough 3y ago
  You think getting rid of aviation is a simple thing?
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  • Supermancho 3y ago
    >> 3% is a pretty big reduction for such a simple thing... > You think getting rid of aviation is a simple thing? That's not what was suggested, initially. Just the private jets. Then there have been some numbers thrown around, so it's not clear where the 3% comes from (1/2 of 7%?). Kneejerk opposition by taking the least charitable interpretation, is not constructive. One point is that something measurable, is action in the right direction, rather than whataboutism...even if it's only marginally effective, it's a mindset change for the following generations. Policies that are easy to understand (like banning personal jets) are more likely to be enacted than complicated carbon capture laws. That's another point being made.
    • baggy_trough 3y ago
      I'm responding to the exact statement made, so I don't know what you're talking about regarding a least charitable interpretation.
      • enterprise_cog 3y ago
        They were talking about private planes and you generalized it to all aviation. You were not responding to the exact statement.
        • baggy_trough 3y ago
          The very first sentence in the parent comment is "All aviation, altogether, private jets inclusive, is less than 3% of world emissions." So your comment is completely off base.
          • enterprise_cog 3y ago
            Okay, and the person who replied was clearly talking about private planes. Hence the “so simple” part. Unless you interpret it uncharitably, like the person who replied to you said.
            • baggy_trough 3y ago
              That is not clear at all for the reason I stated.
              • Supermancho 3y ago
                Hence, this is what I meant by choosing the least charitable interpretation. At least read through the thread to get the context and try to imagine different positions. Usually, people are trying to contribute to a conversation, even if they communicate it badly. If that's too much, get used to nobody caring about what you think or arguing until they get bored. It's certainly boring to talk to a wall. Notice, it's a very common occurrence. People note that something posted is inaccurate, in their own personal interpretation. It's usually not directed at them, but there's a need to correct the posted because of their personal interpretation (re: xkcd Duty Calls). This is not to say, I've never been guilty of this (maybe this post is a great example). Sometimes I want to argue. Sometimes I want to explore my own beliefs, given another person's position, and get it recorded somewhere. That being said, I can recognize that it's not constructive for the conversation at hand and I'm trying to do better, while still growing my own understanding.
  • fibadi-fabadi 3y ago
    Very easy, easier you would thought Just drill few holes on top of the jets, pour hot water as long youll see the water leveling from windows, make it half. Pour also few bucket of yeast and ton of sugar. Shield the holes carefully, let the jet be in sunshine and follow from needed distance what happens.