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why is this always the first thing people bring up about ibm? like, literally every major corporation or government has ties to the nazis lol.
by ncneieixk5 3y ago
why is this always the first thing people bring up about ibm? like, literally every major corporation or government has ties to the nazis lol.
- ggm 3y agoI'd say Thomas J Watsons "lets make competitor tills which work worser and so give their brand a bad name" is probably a better lead in to what IBM was, in corporate culture terms. That, and the "Beards/No-Beards" and "Mens Shorts but only really ugly ones" dances. Or maybe "Nobody ever got fired from IBM for being over 55 ha ha ha"
- doubloon 3y agoBecause Edwin Black wrote a book about it right around the time Silicon Valley kept lecturing people how it could do no wrong and would save the world. Also because someone could have written a similar book about how IBM helped Stalin and the Communists but most anti-communists don't want to rehash old problems that would only hurt one of their best friends and best returning stocks.
- mynameisnoone 3y agoIt's a dirty, open secret that Stanford and most ivy leagues also participated in and continue to benefit from the military-industrial complex. And checkout this partial list of openly-known startups with In-Q-Tel (CIA-affiliated) VC funding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel#Investments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel#Investments
- TheOtherHobbes 3y agoI think many people have realised that FAANG is just a rebrand of mil-ind decorated with brightly coloured office furniture.
- Aerbil313 3y agoThe list is shocking for me, and an even more shocking thought is that probably most of these startups are useless today. Google alone can now provide maybe more half of the technologies these startups tried to achieve in the 2000s.
- mixmastamyk 3y agoNot every, no. It’s brought up because IBM made the holocaust incredibly more productive. Japanese internment as well. Very pertinent today—what do you think all the data collected about your family will be used for in the future? That’s right, what it’s been used for in the past.
- colesantiago 3y agoI'm sure we can agree that no FAANG company has ever had Hitler as their client and FAANG companies are major corporations.
- Alupis 3y agoPick any $EVIL_OF_THE_DAY and a FAANG company sure has done business with them - often directly and more than willingly.
- user-the-name 3y ago[dead]
- Aerbil313 3y agoConsidering all the offices in Tel Aviv, it couldn’t be truer.
- vander_elst 3y agoNot sure if joking or serious.
- pjmlp 3y agoThey weren't around during WW II, otherwise I have no doubt they would had as well. See how they happily collaborate with China.
- em1sar 3y ago[dead]
- angiosperm 3y agoNot every company got a national medal of appreciation ("Iron Cross") directly from Hitler. It was the highest civilian honor German had to offer. After the US declared war, all the IBM equipment leased to the Nazis was considered the property of the German subsidiary. After the war ended, it was all handed back to Watson, and all the rent the German subsidiary was able to preserve (e.g. in Switzerland) came back, too.
- refurb 3y agoPeople think they are being clever or edgy by doing so. There is a certain smug self-righteousness about it. They likely also suffer from the “tainted by sin” theory where any mistake or error by an individual or company requires eternal damnation (yet conveniently dont apply the same standard to themselves). It makes for boring reading once you realize that’s about all they have to offer.
- hsbauauvhabzb 3y agoThe difference is, and bear with me here - I didn’t contribute nor profit from a horrific genocide.
- Lionga 3y agoseems like a minor detail to me
- Aerbil313 3y agoWhere are your tax dollars going, if they are dollars?
- hsbauauvhabzb 3y agoThat’s a pretty big hop - I can’t choose to not pay tax, I can choose not to support a Nazi supporter.
- ncneieixk5 3y agodo you support the space program? do you like any cars made by the VW group? do you drink coca cola products?
- hsbauauvhabzb 3y agoI don’t care about space, no, and no.
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- bux93 3y agoNo, not "literally every major corporation or government has ties to the nazis lol". This moral relativism, whataboutisms and muddying the waters fits perfectly into this pattern https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html