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Somehow cheaper than AWS?

reactordev 3y ago
AWS isn’t the cheapest so how is that a surprise? They are a business and know how to turn the right knobs to increase cash flow. GPUs for AI is one major knob right now.
CGamesPlay 3y ago
AWS is one of the most expensive infrastructure providers out there (especially anything beyond the "basic" services like EC2). And even though AWS still has some globally-notable uptime issues, "nobody ever got fired for picking AWS".
- dathinab 3y ago
  I mean from hearsay of people which had to work with AWS & Google Cloud & Microsoft Azure it seems to me that the other two are in practice worse to a point they would always pick AWS over them even through they hate the AWS UX. And if it's the best of the big 3 providers, then it can't that bad, right ..... right? /s
andersa 3y ago
It would be absurd if it wasn't.
seabrookmx 3y ago
They're a "real" cloud provider (with their own hardware) and not a reseller like Vercel and Netlify. So this isn't _that_ surprising. AWS economies of scale do allow them to make certain services cheap but only if they choose. A lot of time they choose to make money!
patmorgan23 3y ago
They run their own data centers.
- tptacek 3y ago
  We run our own hardware, but not our own data centers.
  - huydotnet 3y ago
    Is there any write up on how Fly.io run your infrastructure? The "not data center" fact makes me interested a little bit.
    - tptacek 3y ago
      We should write that up! We lease space in data centers like Equinix.
    - rxyz 3y ago
      It's just renting space in a big server room. Every mid-to-large city has companies providing that kind of service
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
Genuine question...why are you surprised?
dathinab 3y ago
As a person working in a startup which used AWS for a while: *AWS is expensive, always, except if magic* Where magic means very clever optimizations (often deeply affecting your project architecture/code design) which require the right amount of knowledge/insights into a very confusing UI/UX and enough time evaluate all aspects. I.e. it might simple not be viable for startups and is expensive in it's own way. Through most cheaper alternatives have their own huge bag of issues. Most important fly.io is their own cloud provider not just a more easy way to use AWS. I mean while I don't know if they have their own server centers in every region they do have their own servers.

AWS isn’t the cheapest so how is that a surprise? They are a business and know how to turn the right knobs to increase cash flow. GPUs for AI is one major knob right now.

CGamesPlay 3y ago

AWS is one of the most expensive infrastructure providers out there (especially anything beyond the "basic" services like EC2). And even though AWS still has some globally-notable uptime issues, "nobody ever got fired for picking AWS".

dathinab 3y ago
I mean from hearsay of people which had to work with AWS & Google Cloud & Microsoft Azure it seems to me that the other two are in practice worse to a point they would always pick AWS over them even through they hate the AWS UX. And if it's the best of the big 3 providers, then it can't that bad, right ..... right? /s

andersa 3y ago

It would be absurd if it wasn't.

seabrookmx 3y ago

They're a "real" cloud provider (with their own hardware) and not a reseller like Vercel and Netlify. So this isn't _that_ surprising. AWS economies of scale do allow them to make certain services cheap but only if they choose. A lot of time they choose to make money!

patmorgan23 3y ago

They run their own data centers.

tptacek 3y ago
We run our own hardware, but not our own data centers.
- huydotnet 3y ago
  Is there any write up on how Fly.io run your infrastructure? The "not data center" fact makes me interested a little bit.
  - tptacek 3y ago
    We should write that up! We lease space in data centers like Equinix.
  - rxyz 3y ago
    It's just renting space in a big server room. Every mid-to-large city has companies providing that kind of service

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago

Genuine question...why are you surprised?

dathinab 3y ago

As a person working in a startup which used AWS for a while: *AWS is expensive, always, except if magic* Where magic means very clever optimizations (often deeply affecting your project architecture/code design) which require the right amount of knowledge/insights into a very confusing UI/UX and enough time evaluate all aspects. I.e. it might simple not be viable for startups and is expensive in it's own way. Through most cheaper alternatives have their own huge bag of issues. Most important fly.io is their own cloud provider not just a more easy way to use AWS. I mean while I don't know if they have their own server centers in every region they do have their own servers.