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This is right into the "uncanny valley" of music. It definitely sounded "like music", but none of it is what a human would produce. There's just something off.

otabdeveloper4 3y ago
AI pictures are the same. We are more tolerant of six fingered-pictures with missing limbs, for some reason.
- lbourdages 3y ago
  We're used to drawings, 3D renders, etc. There's no such thing as "artificial music" - at the very least, not since electronic music has become mainstream.
bane 3y ago
The overall audio quality sounds pretty good and it seems to do a good job of sustaining a consistent rhythm and musical concept. But I agree there's something "off" about some of the clips. - The rave music sounds great. But that's because EDM can be quite out there in terms of musical construction. - The guitar sounds weird because it doesn't sound like chords a human hand can make on a tuning nobody tunes their guitar to - with a strange mix of open and closed strings that don't make sense. I think the restrictions of what a guitar can do aren't well understood by the model. - The disco chord progression is bizarre. It doesn't sound bad, but it's unlikely to be something somebody working in the genre would choose. - meditation music - I mean, most of that genre may as well just be some randomized process - drum solo - there's some weird issues in some of the drum sounds, things like cymbals, rides and hats changing tone in the middle of a note, some of the toms sound weird, it sounds like a mix of stick and brush and stick and stick and brush all at the same time...it's sort of the same problem the solo guitar has where it's just not produced within the constraints of what a drum player can actually do on an instrument made of actual drums - sound effects, all are pretty good, a little chunky and low bit-rate or low sample-rate sounding, there's probably something going on in the network that's reducing the rate before it gets build back up. There's a constant sort of reverb in all of the examples I honestly can't say I prefer their model over some of the musicgen output even if their model is doing a better job at following the prompts in some cases. All of the models have a very low bitrate encoding problems and other weird anomalous things. Some of it reminds me of the output from older mp3 encoders, where hihats and such would get very "swishy" sounding. You can hear some of it in the autoencoder reconstructions, especially the trumpet and the last example. However, in any case, I'm actually glad in some ways to see the progress being made in this area. It's really impressive. This was complete science fiction only a very few years ago.
- darkwater 3y ago
  > - drum solo - there's some weird issues in some of the drum sounds, things like cymbals, rides and hats changing tone in the middle of a note, some of the toms sound weird, it sounds like a mix of stick and brush and stick and stick and brush all at the same time...it's sort of the same problem the solo guitar has where it's just not produced within the constraints of what a drum player can actually do on an instrument made of actual drums And I would say that there is also background noise from time to time, at some point I heard some noise akin to voices. Maybe it is some artifact caused by the training data (many drum solos are performed exclusively live).
RobinL 3y ago
Here is a silly song I generated using suno.ai, which I have found to be incredibly impressive (at least, a small percentage of its outputs are very good, most are bad). I think it's good enough that most humans wouldn't realise it's AI generated. https://app.suno.ai/song/8a64868d-9dd3-46db-91af-f962d4bec8b6 https://app.suno.ai/song/8a64868d-9dd3-46db-91af-f962d4bec8b...
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- Agraillo 3y ago
  Very good for my taste, but I should clarify, I'm obsessed with catchy tunes, as a listener and as a hobby musician, growing my own brainworms from time to time. And I must say that suno.ai is very impressive, in my case semi-ready brainworms are almost always in 30%-50% cases. And what's more important, it's really an inspiration tool for all kinds of tasks, like lyrics polishing or playing-along after track separation. Maybe catchy melodies are not for all, but who can argue with charts when The Beatles, ABBA and Queen were almost always producers of ones.
- comex 3y ago
  Wow. I’m guessing it’s generating MIDI or something rather than synthesizing audio from scratch? Even so, the quality of the score is leaps and bounds better than any of the long-form audio on the Stable Audio demo page (either Stable Audio itself or the other models). The audio model outputs seem to take a sequence of 1 to 3 chords, add a barebones melody on top, and basically loop this over and over. When they deviate from the pattern, it feels unplanned and chaotic and they often just snap back to the pattern without resolving the idea added by the deviation. (Either that or they completely change course and forget what they were doing before.) Yes, EDM in particular often has repetitive chord structures and basic melodies, but it’s not that repetitive. In comparison, from listening to a few suno.ai outputs, they reliably have complex melodies and reasonable chord progressions. They do tend to be repetitive and formulaic, but the repetition comes on a longer time scale and isn’t as boring. And they do sometimes get confused and randomly set off in a new direction, but not as often. Most of the time, the outputs sound like real songs. Which is not something I knew AI could do in 2024.
dcre 3y ago
One thing I noticed is that when it’s playing chords, it seems a lot more likely than human players to put both major and minor thirds in. This isn’t unheard of — the famous Hendrix chord in “Purple Haze” consists of root, major third, 7th, minor third. But it sounds pretty weird when you do it in every chord.

otabdeveloper4 3y ago

AI pictures are the same. We are more tolerant of six fingered-pictures with missing limbs, for some reason.

lbourdages 3y ago
We're used to drawings, 3D renders, etc. There's no such thing as "artificial music" - at the very least, not since electronic music has become mainstream.

bane 3y ago

The overall audio quality sounds pretty good and it seems to do a good job of sustaining a consistent rhythm and musical concept. But I agree there's something "off" about some of the clips. - The rave music sounds great. But that's because EDM can be quite out there in terms of musical construction. - The guitar sounds weird because it doesn't sound like chords a human hand can make on a tuning nobody tunes their guitar to - with a strange mix of open and closed strings that don't make sense. I think the restrictions of what a guitar can do aren't well understood by the model. - The disco chord progression is bizarre. It doesn't sound bad, but it's unlikely to be something somebody working in the genre would choose. - meditation music - I mean, most of that genre may as well just be some randomized process - drum solo - there's some weird issues in some of the drum sounds, things like cymbals, rides and hats changing tone in the middle of a note, some of the toms sound weird, it sounds like a mix of stick and brush and stick and stick and brush all at the same time...it's sort of the same problem the solo guitar has where it's just not produced within the constraints of what a drum player can actually do on an instrument made of actual drums - sound effects, all are pretty good, a little chunky and low bit-rate or low sample-rate sounding, there's probably something going on in the network that's reducing the rate before it gets build back up. There's a constant sort of reverb in all of the examples I honestly can't say I prefer their model over some of the musicgen output even if their model is doing a better job at following the prompts in some cases. All of the models have a very low bitrate encoding problems and other weird anomalous things. Some of it reminds me of the output from older mp3 encoders, where hihats and such would get very "swishy" sounding. You can hear some of it in the autoencoder reconstructions, especially the trumpet and the last example. However, in any case, I'm actually glad in some ways to see the progress being made in this area. It's really impressive. This was complete science fiction only a very few years ago.

darkwater 3y ago
> - drum solo - there's some weird issues in some of the drum sounds, things like cymbals, rides and hats changing tone in the middle of a note, some of the toms sound weird, it sounds like a mix of stick and brush and stick and stick and brush all at the same time...it's sort of the same problem the solo guitar has where it's just not produced within the constraints of what a drum player can actually do on an instrument made of actual drums And I would say that there is also background noise from time to time, at some point I heard some noise akin to voices. Maybe it is some artifact caused by the training data (many drum solos are performed exclusively live).

RobinL 3y ago

Here is a silly song I generated using suno.ai, which I have found to be incredibly impressive (at least, a small percentage of its outputs are very good, most are bad). I think it's good enough that most humans wouldn't realise it's AI generated. https://app.suno.ai/song/8a64868d-9dd3-46db-91af-f962d4bec8b6 https://app.suno.ai/song/8a64868d-9dd3-46db-91af-f962d4bec8b...

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Agraillo 3y ago
Very good for my taste, but I should clarify, I'm obsessed with catchy tunes, as a listener and as a hobby musician, growing my own brainworms from time to time. And I must say that suno.ai is very impressive, in my case semi-ready brainworms are almost always in 30%-50% cases. And what's more important, it's really an inspiration tool for all kinds of tasks, like lyrics polishing or playing-along after track separation. Maybe catchy melodies are not for all, but who can argue with charts when The Beatles, ABBA and Queen were almost always producers of ones.
comex 3y ago
Wow. I’m guessing it’s generating MIDI or something rather than synthesizing audio from scratch? Even so, the quality of the score is leaps and bounds better than any of the long-form audio on the Stable Audio demo page (either Stable Audio itself or the other models). The audio model outputs seem to take a sequence of 1 to 3 chords, add a barebones melody on top, and basically loop this over and over. When they deviate from the pattern, it feels unplanned and chaotic and they often just snap back to the pattern without resolving the idea added by the deviation. (Either that or they completely change course and forget what they were doing before.) Yes, EDM in particular often has repetitive chord structures and basic melodies, but it’s not that repetitive. In comparison, from listening to a few suno.ai outputs, they reliably have complex melodies and reasonable chord progressions. They do tend to be repetitive and formulaic, but the repetition comes on a longer time scale and isn’t as boring. And they do sometimes get confused and randomly set off in a new direction, but not as often. Most of the time, the outputs sound like real songs. Which is not something I knew AI could do in 2024.

dcre 3y ago

One thing I noticed is that when it’s playing chords, it seems a lot more likely than human players to put both major and minor thirds in. This isn’t unheard of — the famous Hendrix chord in “Purple Haze” consists of root, major third, 7th, minor third. But it sounds pretty weird when you do it in every chord.