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Do they have supercharger network there? If not then KIA EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq are better than model 3 and Y and I'd imagine there are some sort of domestic inc

by option 3y ago

Do they have supercharger network there? If not then KIA EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq are better than model 3 and Y and I'd imagine there are some sort of domestic incentives involved

summerlight 3y ago
https://www.tesla.com/en_US/findus/list/superchargers/South%20Korea https://www.tesla.com/en_US/findus/list/superchargers/South%... Yes, they have but the coverage is not as great as the US outside the capital metro.
throwaway5959 3y ago
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Having ridden in all four I agree, the finish on the Kia and Hyundai cars are miles ahead (hehe) of the Teslas. And they’re likely built in South Korea instead of China, which is great for their industry and frankly national security.
- samstave 3y ago
  If you watch the docuseries on netflix, the youngest head designer of GM (think Jony Ive for cars) complained that many Detroit Eng's were lured away to KIA - and thats why Kia went from wackenhut style DUMG tunnel vehicles to how great they look today... Kis stole (out paid) GMs offerings - as they wanted an appeal to younger market (recall the chipmunk/hamster commercials, etc)... Kia has a lot of american designers. And younger designers grew up on video games and such, that they want to make good looking cars. Have you seen any cars (mass market, not luxury boxes) from the 70s 80s 90s... hideous POS's - BUT they did have several advantages, less plastic and no remote power off by The Man. EDIT to @throwaway5959 - Im in agreement. I think the Kias look fn dope.
  - throwaway5959 3y ago
    You can’t steal people, just like you can’t “poach” them. There’s nothing wrong with paying people more and delivering a better product.
not2b 3y ago
If their sales are very low, it would make no financial sense for Tesla to build out a supercharger network, at least not all over the country, and people would have trouble getting service for what would be an obscure foreign car in the local market. So I'm sure that Korean customers would prefer to buy a KIA or Hyundai, even without considering factors like loyalty to domestic producers.
seanmcdirmid 3y ago
Does Korea have a EV charging standard? If not, the super charger network would be even more important than in Europe/China.
- judge2020 3y ago
  Korea standardized on CCS1 (US plugs). Not sure what's happening now with the US ditching CCS1 but it might stay CCS1 over there.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    It seems that Tesla is still using NACS in Korea:, from https://news.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20231123000609 https://news.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20231123000609 > Once a user presses the connector button on the charger, it allows access to an adapter called “Magic Dock,” which can be plugged into Tesla’s North American Charging Standard or NACS port. The Magic Dock makes Tesla’s NACS ports compatible with Hyundai and Kia vehicles, and others that use the Combined Charging System or CCS in Korea. Then it sort of makes sense that not having lots of superchargers would be bad for Tesla, since they need to use an adapter with other charging infra if Kia/Hyundai need to use an adapter with theirs.

by option 3y ago

Do they have supercharger network there? If not then KIA EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq are better than model 3 and Y and I'd imagine there are some sort of domestic incentives involved

summerlight 3y ago

https://www.tesla.com/en_US/findus/list/superchargers/South%20Korea https://www.tesla.com/en_US/findus/list/superchargers/South%... Yes, they have but the coverage is not as great as the US outside the capital metro.

throwaway5959 3y ago

Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Having ridden in all four I agree, the finish on the Kia and Hyundai cars are miles ahead (hehe) of the Teslas. And they’re likely built in South Korea instead of China, which is great for their industry and frankly national security.

samstave 3y ago
If you watch the docuseries on netflix, the youngest head designer of GM (think Jony Ive for cars) complained that many Detroit Eng's were lured away to KIA - and thats why Kia went from wackenhut style DUMG tunnel vehicles to how great they look today... Kis stole (out paid) GMs offerings - as they wanted an appeal to younger market (recall the chipmunk/hamster commercials, etc)... Kia has a lot of american designers. And younger designers grew up on video games and such, that they want to make good looking cars. Have you seen any cars (mass market, not luxury boxes) from the 70s 80s 90s... hideous POS's - BUT they did have several advantages, less plastic and no remote power off by The Man. EDIT to @throwaway5959 - Im in agreement. I think the Kias look fn dope.
- throwaway5959 3y ago
  You can’t steal people, just like you can’t “poach” them. There’s nothing wrong with paying people more and delivering a better product.

not2b 3y ago

If their sales are very low, it would make no financial sense for Tesla to build out a supercharger network, at least not all over the country, and people would have trouble getting service for what would be an obscure foreign car in the local market. So I'm sure that Korean customers would prefer to buy a KIA or Hyundai, even without considering factors like loyalty to domestic producers.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

Does Korea have a EV charging standard? If not, the super charger network would be even more important than in Europe/China.

judge2020 3y ago
Korea standardized on CCS1 (US plugs). Not sure what's happening now with the US ditching CCS1 but it might stay CCS1 over there.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  It seems that Tesla is still using NACS in Korea:, from https://news.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20231123000609 https://news.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20231123000609 > Once a user presses the connector button on the charger, it allows access to an adapter called “Magic Dock,” which can be plugged into Tesla’s North American Charging Standard or NACS port. The Magic Dock makes Tesla’s NACS ports compatible with Hyundai and Kia vehicles, and others that use the Combined Charging System or CCS in Korea. Then it sort of makes sense that not having lots of superchargers would be bad for Tesla, since they need to use an adapter with other charging infra if Kia/Hyundai need to use an adapter with theirs.