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One could argue that women being part of the formal economy is also out of an exploitative playbook.
by steve1977 3y ago
One could argue that women being part of the formal economy is also out of an exploitative playbook.
- the_gipsy 3y agoNo. Women working AND rearing children (or taking on the majority of that work), is.
- steve1977 3y agoYeah maybe I should have worded this better. "Forcing (potential) mothers to have a job" would probably have been more clear.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoWho is forcing them? Women want financial independence, for obvious reasons.
- oblio 3y ago> Who is forcing them? The alternative being horrible.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoWhat alternative? Are you suggesting society give women financial independence without them having to work?
- oblio 3y agoThe alternative to women having financial independence is them being dependent financially on men. I'm a guy and I'd never want that if I were a woman.
- steve1977 3y agoFor many women, it's not about financial independence, but about surviving as a family.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoSeems like you are claiming women being part of the formal economy is exploitation, and preventing women from being part of the formal economy is exploitation?
- OtomotO 3y agoIt is - in the generation of my grandparents one income could feed an entire family AND lead to a house (no vacations though, and not much luxury) Nowadays even if you have good jobs it really depends on a lot of circumstances if you can afford such a life (albeit mostly with more luxury and vacations) with two incomes. Effectively the worth of income nearly halved.
- steve1977 3y agoSame here. To be sure, those women (i.e. my grandmothers) were definitely hard working. Raising lots of children, without "modern" appliances like dishwashers etc. in the household. But the money that came from one income was enough. > Effectively the worth of income nearly halved. At least the worth that reaches the worker after taxes etc.
- OtomotO 3y agoIn the case of my grandmother she was the only one working, so yeah... but still, one income could raise two children.
- pyrale 3y ago> One could argue that women being part of the formal economy is also out of an exploitative playbook. That's the whole point. Now we have two solutions: - make the playbook less exploitative, leaving to time and resources being shared more equally among people - get back to a caste system where half of mankind is barred from non-family-related activities.