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My biggest gripe with Popcorn Time is that it doesn't run on my TV. I use a cloud server instead and Radarr/Sonarr combined with Real-Debrid(to download torrent

My biggest gripe with Popcorn Time is that it doesn't run on my TV. I use a cloud server instead and Radarr/Sonarr combined with Real-Debrid(to download torrents) and Usenet to download content. I have a 16TB server on which I have downloaded all movies with IMDB rating > 6 and a good number of votes. This allows me to run Plex/Jellyfin on my TV and stream. Bonus points is that it even works on my mobile phone when I'm on the move!

elAhmo 3y ago
Stremio with Torrentio plugin functions exactly the same as Popcorn Time and runs on TVs
- Jonovono 3y ago
  Real Debrid is worth the price if you want a better experience.
GaryNumanVevo 3y ago
I have a similar setup (32TB NAS + Jellyfin). I use three different Radarr instances (1080p/4k/Anime). Every movie that I've liked on LetterBoxd gets downloaded automatically in 1080p / 4k (1080p for streaming outside my home). Jellyseer allows me to give access to friends and they're able to request stuff easily that's not on streaming. I also use Infuse on AppleTV which has support for Dolby Atmos / Dolby Vision. Absolutely amazing once you get it setup, I've been slowly rebuilding my blu-ray collection digitally too.
spants 3y ago
you use real-debrid and plex and not plex-debrid? https://github.com/itsToggle/plex_debrid https://github.com/itsToggle/plex_debrid Downloading movies is for the stone age!.
exadeci 3y ago
Plex shares are harder to find now but on Discord you can find servers with 100s of TB of movies and TV show to stream straight from your devices with no work and just a small monthly payment
tarruda 3y ago
> I have a 16TB server on which I have downloaded all movies with IMDB rating > 6 and a good number of votes. That seems like a lot of movies. How many of those 16TB are used by all movies with IMBD rating > 6 ?
- yegle 3y ago
  Depending on the quality of the media. The highest bitrate of 4k Bluray Remux movie in my library is ~90Mbps which translates to 50GiB~80GiB per movie.
  - mcny 3y ago
    > The highest bitrate of 4k Bluray Remux movie in my library is ~90Mbps which translates to 50GiB~80GiB per movie. I feel like my sub USD 500 television is not worthy of such high quality.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    ~90Mbps? That's super high. Admittedly, I haven't been in the shiny round disc game for more than a decade and a half, so maybe they bumped up the bitrate for 4K content??? According to Sony[0], up to 100Mbps is supported. This is just way higher than anything I had ever played with, and find it difficult to think that HEVC would even need that bitrate. Seems like the same logic in using gold Monster cables makes the audio sound better when using such a high video bitrate. [0]https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00190648 https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00190648
    - yegle 3y ago
      Here's an example: https://www.1377x.to/torrent/5969105/Trainspotting-1996-Criterion-Collection-2160p-UHD-Blu-ray-Remux-HEVC-DV-DTS-HD-MA-5-1-CiNEPHiLES/ https://www.1377x.to/torrent/5969105/Trainspotting-1996-Crit... I'm not saying I have this in my library FWIW.
    - Cyph0n 3y ago
      4K UHD remuxes are basically straight rips of the source Bluray, hence the high bitrate and file size. There are even hybrid remux releases where multiple sources (e.g., WEB and Bluray) are fused together to get the absolute highest quality possible.
dylan604 3y ago
And how many of these movies have you actually watched? This just sounds like a text book case of digital hoarding. Most people I know that torrent do it on a distinct interest in watching vs might possibly some day maybe want to watch it so let's just get it ahead of time. I'm not judging, just noting that it's a definite new "use case" to me
- Uehreka 3y ago
  I’m not about to do this myself, but I can totally see why someone would. With the way some movies just fall off of streaming services and even rental services and just become unfindable, I’m glad there are people out there keeping independent collections.
- manmal 3y ago
  I‘ve recently heard the term „data prepper“, which I think nails it. I‘d probably qualify as one myself.
  - jcpham2 3y ago
    DataHoarder is a very active reddit community devoted to this “hobby”
    - dylan604 3y ago
      Edit: moved response to correct/intended comment
  - dylan604 3y ago
    Sounds like a disease which would require some form of therapy. I couldn't imagine the sickness that would entice one to download and store/reseed content that I had no intention of ever watching like Kardashians or Twighlight or whatever content just because. I hope you get the help you need!
    - toast0 3y ago
      What happened to not judging from 30 minutes ago? Now you're saying it requires therapy. I'm not going to go out and collect in this manner, but I have ended up with a rather sizable collection of discs I might watch someday. I had pretty much stopped buying discs because streaming was easier and I can mostly ignore the difference in quality; but I've been bitten by too many things becoming unavailable... if the discs are cheap, I'm going to get them and maybe one day watch them.
mmanfrin 3y ago
> I have a 16TB server on which I have downloaded all movies with IMDB rating > 6 and a good number of votes You do not have all movies >6 with a bunch of votes on just 16TB, unless the cutoff is like 100k+ votes and you're downloading 1080p max. I have a 73TB server at 99% capacity right now and I hardly have a movie library.
- globular-toast 3y ago
  Instead of telling someone they're wrong you could just assume they mean 1080p. If we're talking 1080p encodes you can totally do it in that size. If you're using 73TB for barely a collection you're just wasting space.
  - k4rli 3y ago
    >50GB/movie remuxes do look great though. I wouldn't say a waste of space. Storage is cheap anyway and getting big bitrates is also satisfying. This seems like the FLAC vs 320kbps "debate" where people claim to not see any difference, except with movies it's a much more noticeable gap between average and top quality. Also the compact versions rarely have enough channels and bitrate for a good speaker setup.
    - globular-toast 3y ago
      Is it? If the guy has 73TB of storage let's say it's 6x 16TB disks (one redundant). Looking at Seagate IronWolf NAS disks that would cost over 2k. I guess you could get cheaper disks, but I still wouldn't call this cheap. This doesn't include the hardware to run it and power to keep it online.
- me551ah 3y ago
  Yep, most of the movies are 1080p h265. I run ffmpeg scripts to auto convert h264 to hevc and generate smaller files. I do have 4K rips for movies I like and new movies, but by default download 1080p hevc only. I stay away from remuxes
- pa7ch 3y ago
hankhill123 3y ago
I use https://github.com/hauxir/rapidbay https://github.com/hauxir/rapidbay for this purpose. the advantage of that is that it's all on-demand. no need to set up sonarr/radarr. Just set up a bunch of trackers to search from and pick from them on demand.
Cyph0n 3y ago
It’s quite amazing how much you can do with a working self-hosted setup and a decent amount of storage. The open source community around self-hosted services is stronger than ever. A few of my favorite lesser known self-hosted projects are Audiobookshelf, Komga (comic/manga reader), and Kavita (ebook/comic/manga reader).
sebazzz 3y ago
Radar and Sonarr here with Overseerr as an UI for my wife. Bazarr for subs, jackett as a client for torrent sites, unpackerr for unpacking zips. Good old Transmission as download client.
- ashconnor 3y ago
  It's a shame unpackerr is needed. BitTorrent works better on large uncompressed files.
  - appplication 3y ago
    Interesting, why is that?
    - ashconnor 3y ago
      - Smaller torrent filesize - Clients prevent forcing priority if there's only one file - Checksum checking is built in - Less work per client [0] - Redundant decompression required by everyone that grabs the file [0] - https://blog.codinghorror.com/everybody-loves-bittorrent/ https://blog.codinghorror.com/everybody-loves-bittorrent/
      - appplication 3y ago
        What does the torrent treat a compressed uncompressed file differently? I would have imagined the torrent framework would be agnostic to the actual file encoding.
        ashconnor 3y ago
        To clarify it works better with big files vs small files. Compression has no impact.
        appplication 3y ago
        Is that just efficiency (per byte, etc) or would the network actually work better (faster real downloads for larger files vs smaller)? I’m imagining there’s some tradeoff at some point.

elAhmo 3y ago

Stremio with Torrentio plugin functions exactly the same as Popcorn Time and runs on TVs

Jonovono 3y ago
Real Debrid is worth the price if you want a better experience.

GaryNumanVevo 3y ago

I have a similar setup (32TB NAS + Jellyfin). I use three different Radarr instances (1080p/4k/Anime). Every movie that I've liked on LetterBoxd gets downloaded automatically in 1080p / 4k (1080p for streaming outside my home). Jellyseer allows me to give access to friends and they're able to request stuff easily that's not on streaming. I also use Infuse on AppleTV which has support for Dolby Atmos / Dolby Vision. Absolutely amazing once you get it setup, I've been slowly rebuilding my blu-ray collection digitally too.

spants 3y ago

you use real-debrid and plex and not plex-debrid? https://github.com/itsToggle/plex_debrid https://github.com/itsToggle/plex_debrid Downloading movies is for the stone age!.

exadeci 3y ago

Plex shares are harder to find now but on Discord you can find servers with 100s of TB of movies and TV show to stream straight from your devices with no work and just a small monthly payment

tarruda 3y ago

> I have a 16TB server on which I have downloaded all movies with IMDB rating > 6 and a good number of votes. That seems like a lot of movies. How many of those 16TB are used by all movies with IMBD rating > 6 ?

yegle 3y ago
Depending on the quality of the media. The highest bitrate of 4k Bluray Remux movie in my library is ~90Mbps which translates to 50GiB~80GiB per movie.
- mcny 3y ago
  > The highest bitrate of 4k Bluray Remux movie in my library is ~90Mbps which translates to 50GiB~80GiB per movie. I feel like my sub USD 500 television is not worthy of such high quality.
- dylan604 3y ago
  ~90Mbps? That's super high. Admittedly, I haven't been in the shiny round disc game for more than a decade and a half, so maybe they bumped up the bitrate for 4K content??? According to Sony[0], up to 100Mbps is supported. This is just way higher than anything I had ever played with, and find it difficult to think that HEVC would even need that bitrate. Seems like the same logic in using gold Monster cables makes the audio sound better when using such a high video bitrate. [0]https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00190648 https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00190648
  - yegle 3y ago
    Here's an example: https://www.1377x.to/torrent/5969105/Trainspotting-1996-Criterion-Collection-2160p-UHD-Blu-ray-Remux-HEVC-DV-DTS-HD-MA-5-1-CiNEPHiLES/ https://www.1377x.to/torrent/5969105/Trainspotting-1996-Crit... I'm not saying I have this in my library FWIW.
  - Cyph0n 3y ago
    4K UHD remuxes are basically straight rips of the source Bluray, hence the high bitrate and file size. There are even hybrid remux releases where multiple sources (e.g., WEB and Bluray) are fused together to get the absolute highest quality possible.

dylan604 3y ago

And how many of these movies have you actually watched? This just sounds like a text book case of digital hoarding. Most people I know that torrent do it on a distinct interest in watching vs might possibly some day maybe want to watch it so let's just get it ahead of time. I'm not judging, just noting that it's a definite new "use case" to me

Uehreka 3y ago
I’m not about to do this myself, but I can totally see why someone would. With the way some movies just fall off of streaming services and even rental services and just become unfindable, I’m glad there are people out there keeping independent collections.
manmal 3y ago
I‘ve recently heard the term „data prepper“, which I think nails it. I‘d probably qualify as one myself.
- jcpham2 3y ago
  DataHoarder is a very active reddit community devoted to this “hobby”
  - dylan604 3y ago
    Edit: moved response to correct/intended comment
- dylan604 3y ago
  Sounds like a disease which would require some form of therapy. I couldn't imagine the sickness that would entice one to download and store/reseed content that I had no intention of ever watching like Kardashians or Twighlight or whatever content just because. I hope you get the help you need!
  - toast0 3y ago
    What happened to not judging from 30 minutes ago? Now you're saying it requires therapy. I'm not going to go out and collect in this manner, but I have ended up with a rather sizable collection of discs I might watch someday. I had pretty much stopped buying discs because streaming was easier and I can mostly ignore the difference in quality; but I've been bitten by too many things becoming unavailable... if the discs are cheap, I'm going to get them and maybe one day watch them.

mmanfrin 3y ago

> I have a 16TB server on which I have downloaded all movies with IMDB rating > 6 and a good number of votes You do not have all movies >6 with a bunch of votes on just 16TB, unless the cutoff is like 100k+ votes and you're downloading 1080p max. I have a 73TB server at 99% capacity right now and I hardly have a movie library.

globular-toast 3y ago
Instead of telling someone they're wrong you could just assume they mean 1080p. If we're talking 1080p encodes you can totally do it in that size. If you're using 73TB for barely a collection you're just wasting space.
- k4rli 3y ago
  >50GB/movie remuxes do look great though. I wouldn't say a waste of space. Storage is cheap anyway and getting big bitrates is also satisfying. This seems like the FLAC vs 320kbps "debate" where people claim to not see any difference, except with movies it's a much more noticeable gap between average and top quality. Also the compact versions rarely have enough channels and bitrate for a good speaker setup.
  - globular-toast 3y ago
    Is it? If the guy has 73TB of storage let's say it's 6x 16TB disks (one redundant). Looking at Seagate IronWolf NAS disks that would cost over 2k. I guess you could get cheaper disks, but I still wouldn't call this cheap. This doesn't include the hardware to run it and power to keep it online.
me551ah 3y ago
Yep, most of the movies are 1080p h265. I run ffmpeg scripts to auto convert h264 to hevc and generate smaller files. I do have 4K rips for movies I like and new movies, but by default download 1080p hevc only. I stay away from remuxes
pa7ch 3y ago

hankhill123 3y ago

I use https://github.com/hauxir/rapidbay https://github.com/hauxir/rapidbay for this purpose. the advantage of that is that it's all on-demand. no need to set up sonarr/radarr. Just set up a bunch of trackers to search from and pick from them on demand.

Cyph0n 3y ago

It’s quite amazing how much you can do with a working self-hosted setup and a decent amount of storage. The open source community around self-hosted services is stronger than ever. A few of my favorite lesser known self-hosted projects are Audiobookshelf, Komga (comic/manga reader), and Kavita (ebook/comic/manga reader).

sebazzz 3y ago

Radar and Sonarr here with Overseerr as an UI for my wife. Bazarr for subs, jackett as a client for torrent sites, unpackerr for unpacking zips. Good old Transmission as download client.

ashconnor 3y ago
It's a shame unpackerr is needed. BitTorrent works better on large uncompressed files.
- appplication 3y ago
  Interesting, why is that?
  - ashconnor 3y ago
    - Smaller torrent filesize - Clients prevent forcing priority if there's only one file - Checksum checking is built in - Less work per client [0] - Redundant decompression required by everyone that grabs the file [0] - https://blog.codinghorror.com/everybody-loves-bittorrent/ https://blog.codinghorror.com/everybody-loves-bittorrent/
    - appplication 3y ago
      What does the torrent treat a compressed uncompressed file differently? I would have imagined the torrent framework would be agnostic to the actual file encoding.
      - ashconnor 3y ago
        To clarify it works better with big files vs small files. Compression has no impact.
        appplication 3y ago
        Is that just efficiency (per byte, etc) or would the network actually work better (faster real downloads for larger files vs smaller)? I’m imagining there’s some tradeoff at some point.