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As a parent of 3 in Switzerland, I always laugh (sadly) at these threads. Cost of daycare? Make a sliding scale. Cost of housing? Accept smaller living space, b

As a parent of 3 in Switzerland, I always laugh (sadly) at these threads. Cost of daycare? Make a sliding scale. Cost of housing? Accept smaller living space, but count on your community to give you other safe, comfortable and fun public spaces. Pay parents to have kids? Yup (1500 at birth, 200 a month until school is done, even up to bachelor degree). Cost of education? Free public universities. If a society wants healthy familles it can choose to have them.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
And yet what is Switzerland’s birth rate? 1.46 is better than South Korea, but not as good as the USA’s 1.64. > If a society wants healthy familles it can choose to have them. So what is Switzerland doing wrong that it needs to fix so it can do better than the USA at least?
- instagib 3y ago
  https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigrati... Immigration. Not necessarily wrong but why some countries have higher birth rates. Subsidize current citizens costs for more natural born citizens. More people/workers - immigration.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    Switzerland has more immigrants than the USA in a per capita basis, so by that reasoning, should have a higher birth rate, not lower. Switzerland also admits plenty of immigrants from high birth rate countries (Africa, the Middle East).
    - instagib 3y ago
      Lots of fun info on the demographics between the two and many others but both are below the 2.1 replacement fertility rate. Maybe this would be a better link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Replacement_rates https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Replace... I was trying to answer to the reply and not denigrate Switzerland in any way. Expensive travel magnets though.
      - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
        I think the Swiss do much better than the USA on the points OP mentioned (I lived in Lausanne for 2 years), but it still doesn’t move the needle up on birth rate, which I think is just stuck at rising wealth = fewer kids. Social spending has little effect here for some reason.
instagib 3y ago
In many Asian countries the kids live with their parents and if they move out after marriage it’s to a house on the property with the parents or very closely nearby for support. Getting together regularly with family or friends is usually very healthy. I suggest people watch the documentary “Happy” 2012 by Roko Belic. It was introduced in a class to help with stress among many other supportive topics.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

And yet what is Switzerland’s birth rate? 1.46 is better than South Korea, but not as good as the USA’s 1.64. > If a society wants healthy familles it can choose to have them. So what is Switzerland doing wrong that it needs to fix so it can do better than the USA at least?

instagib 3y ago
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigrati... Immigration. Not necessarily wrong but why some countries have higher birth rates. Subsidize current citizens costs for more natural born citizens. More people/workers - immigration.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  Switzerland has more immigrants than the USA in a per capita basis, so by that reasoning, should have a higher birth rate, not lower. Switzerland also admits plenty of immigrants from high birth rate countries (Africa, the Middle East).
  - instagib 3y ago
    Lots of fun info on the demographics between the two and many others but both are below the 2.1 replacement fertility rate. Maybe this would be a better link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Replacement_rates https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Replace... I was trying to answer to the reply and not denigrate Switzerland in any way. Expensive travel magnets though.
    - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      I think the Swiss do much better than the USA on the points OP mentioned (I lived in Lausanne for 2 years), but it still doesn’t move the needle up on birth rate, which I think is just stuck at rising wealth = fewer kids. Social spending has little effect here for some reason.

instagib 3y ago

In many Asian countries the kids live with their parents and if they move out after marriage it’s to a house on the property with the parents or very closely nearby for support. Getting together regularly with family or friends is usually very healthy. I suggest people watch the documentary “Happy” 2012 by Roko Belic. It was introduced in a class to help with stress among many other supportive topics.