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I think the overview is missing a column of what data is actually allowed for 'free' egress. Iirc eg Cloudflare does not allow videos etc. as part of their fre

by naiv 3y ago

I think the overview is missing a column of what data is actually allowed for 'free' egress. Iirc eg Cloudflare does not allow videos etc. as part of their free tier. edit: confused ingress and egress

kkielhofner 3y ago
We’re talking about egress - traffic leaving the network. Due to traffic patterns and other reasons (Hotel California) ingress is always free, egress is charged. There is some debate about the status of hosting video when using Cloudflare as a CDN. These comparisons are for hosts/object store. Cloudflare R2 has no restrictions on the type of content while not charging for egress.
- naiv 3y ago
  sorry , I typed too fast and meant egress
- avereveard 3y ago
  R2 has some reasonable bandwidth usage in their terms of services and I don't see very large enterprises willing to play suspension roulette against unknown limits
  - weird-eye-issue 3y ago
    I think you're confused
_cenw 3y ago
Hetzner has seen two known cases of people being evicted for bandwidth use, and they were saturating the link 24/7 for several months by syncing an endless amount of footage to archive.
- Aeolun 3y ago
  Do you have a source for this? Would like to read about that.
  - hrrsn 3y ago
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180504/hetzner-traffic-use-notice-unlimited-unlimited/p1 https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180504/hetzner-traffic-use... HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32242987 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32242987
stephenr 3y ago
Another factor when it's a CDN is what they will/won't allow to be cached (and thus moving the point of mass-egress from your origin to their network). Cloudflare has limits on the size of objects that can be cached, making it relatively impractical to use for a download-focused site with resources more than a few hundred MB.
- creatonez 3y ago
  To be exact, it has a limit of 512 MiB for free, pro, and business, and 5 GiB per file in enterprise. Their proxying service also has an HTTP upload body size limit of 100 MiB, which is 500 MiB for enterprise.

by naiv 3y ago

kkielhofner 3y ago

We’re talking about egress - traffic leaving the network. Due to traffic patterns and other reasons (Hotel California) ingress is always free, egress is charged. There is some debate about the status of hosting video when using Cloudflare as a CDN. These comparisons are for hosts/object store. Cloudflare R2 has no restrictions on the type of content while not charging for egress.

naiv 3y ago
sorry , I typed too fast and meant egress
avereveard 3y ago
R2 has some reasonable bandwidth usage in their terms of services and I don't see very large enterprises willing to play suspension roulette against unknown limits
- weird-eye-issue 3y ago
  I think you're confused

_cenw 3y ago

Hetzner has seen two known cases of people being evicted for bandwidth use, and they were saturating the link 24/7 for several months by syncing an endless amount of footage to archive.

Aeolun 3y ago
Do you have a source for this? Would like to read about that.
- hrrsn 3y ago
  https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180504/hetzner-traffic-use-notice-unlimited-unlimited/p1 https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180504/hetzner-traffic-use... HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32242987 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32242987

stephenr 3y ago

Another factor when it's a CDN is what they will/won't allow to be cached (and thus moving the point of mass-egress from your origin to their network). Cloudflare has limits on the size of objects that can be cached, making it relatively impractical to use for a download-focused site with resources more than a few hundred MB.

creatonez 3y ago
To be exact, it has a limit of 512 MiB for free, pro, and business, and 5 GiB per file in enterprise. Their proxying service also has an HTTP upload body size limit of 100 MiB, which is 500 MiB for enterprise.