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People move to dense areas because that's where job opportunities are. It's a vicious cycle. For software devs tho, you are right. Just get a remote job.

pas 3y ago
people are extremely bad at coordinating/advocating for their interests, ie. to get more housing built. it's learned helplessness, and crazy memes (like conservation of neighborhood character)
- switch007 3y ago
  What examples of coordination do you have? That have resulted in eg 1,000-100,000 dwellings being built? Honestly confused what it is you’re suggesting
  - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
    I read their post as meaning people will sit in the same HCOL area rather than make decisions for themselves that would improve their lives, such as moving to a LCOL area. And that they also won't organize to try and fix the issues with the housing in the HCOL area. I agree with the sentiment personally, it's why I always tell people to move. I was watching a youtube video earlier this week about a couple who did exactly that. They lived in portland oregan. they bought a rundown old trailer that no one wanted, put the elbow grease in to clean it up and rented out a space for it. They then realized that with their income it was going to take many more years than they wanted to become financially independent. So they moved out of state and w/i 2 years had paid off a 2 bedroom home (they had savings and sold the trailer) and were living in it and considered themselves financially independent (they no longer had to work to live). They talked about how their family shunned them when they moved away and they've learned not to talk to friends about it because it just causes friction. some people do it, it's just most won't.
- bosie 3y ago
  Denser housing only helps so much though. You need to increase street capacity, increase public transport, more doctors in the area etc. And yes, neighnorhood character is real.
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    More services will be sorted out by the market, because there is more demand. You're assuming street and public transit capacity is already maxed out; but if it is, yes you need more (of one or the other or both).

pas 3y ago

people are extremely bad at coordinating/advocating for their interests, ie. to get more housing built. it's learned helplessness, and crazy memes (like conservation of neighborhood character)

switch007 3y ago
What examples of coordination do you have? That have resulted in eg 1,000-100,000 dwellings being built? Honestly confused what it is you’re suggesting
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
  I read their post as meaning people will sit in the same HCOL area rather than make decisions for themselves that would improve their lives, such as moving to a LCOL area. And that they also won't organize to try and fix the issues with the housing in the HCOL area. I agree with the sentiment personally, it's why I always tell people to move. I was watching a youtube video earlier this week about a couple who did exactly that. They lived in portland oregan. they bought a rundown old trailer that no one wanted, put the elbow grease in to clean it up and rented out a space for it. They then realized that with their income it was going to take many more years than they wanted to become financially independent. So they moved out of state and w/i 2 years had paid off a 2 bedroom home (they had savings and sold the trailer) and were living in it and considered themselves financially independent (they no longer had to work to live). They talked about how their family shunned them when they moved away and they've learned not to talk to friends about it because it just causes friction. some people do it, it's just most won't.
bosie 3y ago
Denser housing only helps so much though. You need to increase street capacity, increase public transport, more doctors in the area etc. And yes, neighnorhood character is real.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  More services will be sorted out by the market, because there is more demand. You're assuming street and public transit capacity is already maxed out; but if it is, yes you need more (of one or the other or both).