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It's like the Stanford Marshmallow experiment[1]. The experiment measured the wrong thing, the credibility of the experimenters in the eyes of the subjects. If

It's like the Stanford Marshmallow experiment[1]. The experiment measured the wrong thing, the credibility of the experimenters in the eyes of the subjects. If you didn't believe they would deliver on their promise, you took the first reward. I don't agree with the conditions of the game, because far too much damage is done by people who "both sides" or "I'm just asking questions" or otherwise hedge on normal socially accepted behavior. The post fairness doctrine[2] world is a harsh place, and it's made me grumpy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experimen... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_doctrine

Dylan16807 3y ago
There's a big gap between "they measured the wrong thing" and showing up to play a game but not following any of the rules. If you object to the game then why are you pretending to play it?
- brewdad 3y ago
  Perhaps the same reason there are trolls on the internet. The game you are playing and want me to play is not the game I wish to play, so I shall do my own thing in your game space.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    You have to go out of your way to get to this game space, so that's pretty rude and hard to defend.
    - hmcq6 3y ago
      Why is it rude? If the author cared about getting accurate results they wouldn't be posting an anonymous online survey. Adding onto that, I don't have any faith in the author of the post to use this data in any significant way (no shade to the author I just think most of these studies go nowhere).
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        Lack of faith in the author doesn't affect whether it's rude to barge in to someone's thing, a thing that put zero impositions on you and you had to go out of your way to reach, just to ignore the simple rules and make a mess of it. I don't understand why you wouldn't see how that's rude.
        hmcq6 3y ago
        > If the author cared about getting accurate results they wouldn't be posting an anonymous online survey.
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        "They don't care enough" doesn't stop it being rude to break their stuff on purpose. It's still rude. I don't understand your logic.

Dylan16807 3y ago

There's a big gap between "they measured the wrong thing" and showing up to play a game but not following any of the rules. If you object to the game then why are you pretending to play it?

brewdad 3y ago
Perhaps the same reason there are trolls on the internet. The game you are playing and want me to play is not the game I wish to play, so I shall do my own thing in your game space.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  You have to go out of your way to get to this game space, so that's pretty rude and hard to defend.
  - hmcq6 3y ago
    Why is it rude? If the author cared about getting accurate results they wouldn't be posting an anonymous online survey. Adding onto that, I don't have any faith in the author of the post to use this data in any significant way (no shade to the author I just think most of these studies go nowhere).
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      Lack of faith in the author doesn't affect whether it's rude to barge in to someone's thing, a thing that put zero impositions on you and you had to go out of your way to reach, just to ignore the simple rules and make a mess of it. I don't understand why you wouldn't see how that's rude.
      - hmcq6 3y ago
        > If the author cared about getting accurate results they wouldn't be posting an anonymous online survey.
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        "They don't care enough" doesn't stop it being rude to break their stuff on purpose. It's still rude. I don't understand your logic.