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Last year I caught this footage of a driver that hit a cyclist and they were fully visible. The police determined the driver technically wasn’t at fault because

by r0m4n0 3y ago

Last year I caught this footage of a driver that hit a cyclist and they were fully visible. The police determined the driver technically wasn’t at fault because they had the right of way but humans drive incredibly unsafe. https://youtu.be/uycFSrUI700?si=DPgNc_B5CNDctDyt https://youtu.be/uycFSrUI700?si=DPgNc_B5CNDctDyt 1) cyclist assumed they were safe to cross as there was a pedestrian 2) the driver didn’t slow down for the pedestrian in the road at all 3) driver was probably speeding 4) driver didn’t brake until very late, probably distracted 5) cyclist was 15 years old so probably not using enough caution in general I honestly think a self driving car would have been going slow for the crossing pedestrian and this collision would have never happened (but I guess we can all just guess). The question is, what’s better, occasional software glitches or human stupidity? I guess time and data will tell.

fallingknife 3y ago
Not sure what the relevance of the pedestrian is because he far outside the path of travel for the car at the time he hit the bike.
- cozzyd 3y ago
  most states require you to stop as long as a pedestrian is in the cross-walk (one of the many traffic rules that most drivers disregard).
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    Some states have a half rule. Or a rule that as long as the pedestrian hasn’t passed your car yet, you need to stop. I’m not even clear what my state (Washington) follows ATM: > (1) The operator of an approaching vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian, bicycle, or personal delivery device to cross the roadway within an unmarked or marked crosswalk when the pedestrian, bicycle, or personal delivery device is upon or within one lane of the half of the roadway upon which the vehicle is traveling or onto which it is turning. For purposes of this section “half of the roadway” means all traffic lanes carrying traffic in one direction of travel, and includes the entire width of a one-way roadway.
    - r0m4n0 3y ago
      I think they are trying to make the law more reasonable because there were police officers writing tickets for absurd stings. A person would step into the road and everyone would get tickets in the intersection. WA law seems rather convoluted but basically gives some room to use the road when the pedestrian is still out there. Probably more for those, I’m turning right at a red light and ped crossed the road, it’s clear to go now but someone is still technically in the crosswalk. IMHO it's a slippery slope and vision of other cars can be obstructed by cars driving around pedestrians. In general, people shouldn’t be doing 40mph within 10 feet of a pedestrian in the road (like they were in this case). Anyway, I record this intersection because I see all kinds of carnage… 10 collisions in the past year next to a park. Human drivers are the worst
      - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
        Our roads are pretty bad as well. True fix will fix the drivers, and the roads.

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fallingknife 3y ago

Not sure what the relevance of the pedestrian is because he far outside the path of travel for the car at the time he hit the bike.

cozzyd 3y ago
most states require you to stop as long as a pedestrian is in the cross-walk (one of the many traffic rules that most drivers disregard).
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  Some states have a half rule. Or a rule that as long as the pedestrian hasn’t passed your car yet, you need to stop. I’m not even clear what my state (Washington) follows ATM: > (1) The operator of an approaching vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian, bicycle, or personal delivery device to cross the roadway within an unmarked or marked crosswalk when the pedestrian, bicycle, or personal delivery device is upon or within one lane of the half of the roadway upon which the vehicle is traveling or onto which it is turning. For purposes of this section “half of the roadway” means all traffic lanes carrying traffic in one direction of travel, and includes the entire width of a one-way roadway.
  - r0m4n0 3y ago
    I think they are trying to make the law more reasonable because there were police officers writing tickets for absurd stings. A person would step into the road and everyone would get tickets in the intersection. WA law seems rather convoluted but basically gives some room to use the road when the pedestrian is still out there. Probably more for those, I’m turning right at a red light and ped crossed the road, it’s clear to go now but someone is still technically in the crosswalk. IMHO it's a slippery slope and vision of other cars can be obstructed by cars driving around pedestrians. In general, people shouldn’t be doing 40mph within 10 feet of a pedestrian in the road (like they were in this case). Anyway, I record this intersection because I see all kinds of carnage… 10 collisions in the past year next to a park. Human drivers are the worst
    - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      Our roads are pretty bad as well. True fix will fix the drivers, and the roads.