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Want me to really bake your noodle? Ready? It has Markdown mode as an option. Peak HN, perfectly executed: - "it's obvious my pet peeve feature X should be

Want me to really bake your noodle? Ready? It has Markdown mode as an option. Peak HN, perfectly executed: - "it's obvious my pet peeve feature X should be added to Y, the company in the article". - "I don't like X". - "Can we have both?" I'm guffawing

lxgr 3y ago
Peak HN is also claiming Y already supports X without showing any evidence. And no, converting a `#` into a H1 is not "markdown support". I want a non-WYSIWYG mode that can let me work on plain text and export it without changing a single comma or tab, optionally with a WYSIWYG presentation layer on top of that like Dropbox Paper does, but one that does not let me add non-markdown features (which would inevitably get lost when exporting and re-importing the same file, or parts of it via copy and paste). Update: You made me look: Sadly still no Markdown support. I would have been very happy to be wrong here.
- shoelessone 3y ago
  I’m with you. I would love this so much. Maybe irrelevant, but I will say that my spouse who spends a lot more time in Google docs can’t be bothered to learn even the markdown shortcuts for H tags in docs even though it would save her a ton of time. I imagine that’s a large majority of people.
- refulgentis 3y ago
  You redefined Markdown support into "only Markdown support." No refunds, sorry. :)* Absolutely no trillion-dollar company is going to ship a product at scale that's simultaneously obsessed with: Markdown only, non-formatted Markdown, and Markdown. That's a niche feature available in many code editors, I suggest Visual Studio Code. * also, note both my and my parent post are proceeding with the premise that perhaps both are desirable, I'm not sure why you felt deceived that Docs didn't become a Markdown-only editor
  - lxgr 3y ago
    Markdown shortcuts just really aren't markdown, no refund needed, in the same way that supporting j/k keybindings for <- / -> isn't the same thing as Vim. It's about 10-20% of the way there. And Google Docs has already shipped "pageless doucments", arguably a huge break with the paper-skeuomorphic word processor model (that makes it so much more usable on mobile, among other advantages). I really don't think a "light" mode that tones down the WYSIWYG-ness further is out of reach for a company of Google's caliber. > That's a niche feature available in many code editors, I suggest Visual Studio Code. That's completely unworkable for fast-paced collaboration, though, and additionally doesn't give me documents synced across devices. GDocs' conflict resolution capabilities are phenomenal (both between multiple contributors and multiple offline devices); I'd just love to be able to use these with Markdown.

lxgr 3y ago

Peak HN is also claiming Y already supports X without showing any evidence. And no, converting a `#` into a H1 is not "markdown support". I want a non-WYSIWYG mode that can let me work on plain text and export it without changing a single comma or tab, optionally with a WYSIWYG presentation layer on top of that like Dropbox Paper does, but one that does not let me add non-markdown features (which would inevitably get lost when exporting and re-importing the same file, or parts of it via copy and paste). Update: You made me look: Sadly still no Markdown support. I would have been very happy to be wrong here.

shoelessone 3y ago
I’m with you. I would love this so much. Maybe irrelevant, but I will say that my spouse who spends a lot more time in Google docs can’t be bothered to learn even the markdown shortcuts for H tags in docs even though it would save her a ton of time. I imagine that’s a large majority of people.
refulgentis 3y ago
You redefined Markdown support into "only Markdown support." No refunds, sorry. :)* Absolutely no trillion-dollar company is going to ship a product at scale that's simultaneously obsessed with: Markdown only, non-formatted Markdown, and Markdown. That's a niche feature available in many code editors, I suggest Visual Studio Code. * also, note both my and my parent post are proceeding with the premise that perhaps both are desirable, I'm not sure why you felt deceived that Docs didn't become a Markdown-only editor
- lxgr 3y ago
  Markdown shortcuts just really aren't markdown, no refund needed, in the same way that supporting j/k keybindings for <- / -> isn't the same thing as Vim. It's about 10-20% of the way there. And Google Docs has already shipped "pageless doucments", arguably a huge break with the paper-skeuomorphic word processor model (that makes it so much more usable on mobile, among other advantages). I really don't think a "light" mode that tones down the WYSIWYG-ness further is out of reach for a company of Google's caliber. > That's a niche feature available in many code editors, I suggest Visual Studio Code. That's completely unworkable for fast-paced collaboration, though, and additionally doesn't give me documents synced across devices. GDocs' conflict resolution capabilities are phenomenal (both between multiple contributors and multiple offline devices); I'd just love to be able to use these with Markdown.