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Will be interesting to see how the media plays this, given the pretty unforgiving coverage of Elon Musk complaining about the same thing.

ilikehurdles 3y ago
It will be interesting, and entirely predictable as she’ll be treated like the media darling she has been.
gopher2000 3y ago
This was also while Elon was spewing that he was a "free speech absolutist" yet was kicking very specific accounts off Twitter. So the hypocrisy was a little different.
- nick238 3y ago
  What does "free speech absolutist" even mean? Shouting 'fire' in a crowded theatre is OK? Lying while under oath is not perjury? Distributing CSM? Going to a public playground and shouting expletives?
  - stackedinserter 3y ago
    Free speech means that you can't be prosecuted or punished for having and expressing an opinion. Simple, easy to remember.
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dudul 3y ago
Came here to say the same thing :) Very curious to see how the coverage will compare.
add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
She's not an asshole (publicly, anyway) so I would imagine she doesn't have people (in the mainstream) waiting to pounce on her for fragility and hypocrisy. Well the latter wouldn't apply to her the way it did with Musk, anyway. It's silly to pretend this is an issue people have strong opinions about in a vaccuum, divorced from how they feel about the subject. Which is another way of saying it's one of those things that doesn't deserve to be news, it just happens to involve a celebrity.
- dudul 3y ago
  > It's silly to pretend this is an issue people have strong opinions about in a vaccuum, divorced from how they feel about the subject. If true this is actually really sad. If people can't have the same stance on harassment/stalking/whatever-this-thing-is regardless of if they like the victim or not it's really sad.
  - add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
    Being sad that you can't go through life openly unlikeable without having people root against you is like being sad that the sun goes down each night. Best to accept it as a fundamental rule and save your feelings.
    - dudul 3y ago
      You completely missed my point. I could have replaced "stalking" with "murder" or "fraud" or anything. If people are not able to have a principled stance on right or wrong without calibrating their response based on who the victim is, it's sad.

ilikehurdles 3y ago

It will be interesting, and entirely predictable as she’ll be treated like the media darling she has been.

gopher2000 3y ago

This was also while Elon was spewing that he was a "free speech absolutist" yet was kicking very specific accounts off Twitter. So the hypocrisy was a little different.

nick238 3y ago
What does "free speech absolutist" even mean? Shouting 'fire' in a crowded theatre is OK? Lying while under oath is not perjury? Distributing CSM? Going to a public playground and shouting expletives?
- stackedinserter 3y ago
  Free speech means that you can't be prosecuted or punished for having and expressing an opinion. Simple, easy to remember.
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dudul 3y ago

Came here to say the same thing :) Very curious to see how the coverage will compare.

add-sub-mul-div 3y ago

She's not an asshole (publicly, anyway) so I would imagine she doesn't have people (in the mainstream) waiting to pounce on her for fragility and hypocrisy. Well the latter wouldn't apply to her the way it did with Musk, anyway. It's silly to pretend this is an issue people have strong opinions about in a vaccuum, divorced from how they feel about the subject. Which is another way of saying it's one of those things that doesn't deserve to be news, it just happens to involve a celebrity.

dudul 3y ago
> It's silly to pretend this is an issue people have strong opinions about in a vaccuum, divorced from how they feel about the subject. If true this is actually really sad. If people can't have the same stance on harassment/stalking/whatever-this-thing-is regardless of if they like the victim or not it's really sad.
- add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
  Being sad that you can't go through life openly unlikeable without having people root against you is like being sad that the sun goes down each night. Best to accept it as a fundamental rule and save your feelings.
  - dudul 3y ago
    You completely missed my point. I could have replaced "stalking" with "murder" or "fraud" or anything. If people are not able to have a principled stance on right or wrong without calibrating their response based on who the victim is, it's sad.