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This is to the point where, although it's irrational but I know statistically I'd be fine, I'd be scared to fly on any new generation Boeing.
by user3939382 3y ago
This is to the point where, although it's irrational but I know statistically I'd be fine, I'd be scared to fly on any new generation Boeing.
- electric_mayhem 3y agoRemember this simple rhyme for for your safety whenever you’re booking a commercial flight: “If it’s Boeing, I’m not going.”
- tboyd47 3y agoAirlines can switch your plane after you've booked already.
- CoastalCoder 3y agoInteresting opportunity for travel insurance: a policy that refunds your ticket if the plane turns out to be a 737 (even at the last minute). I realize it's not a viable business idea, but I'd feel such Schadenfreude if Boeing had to deal with the optics of that.
- dwallin 3y agoJetBlue doesn't fly any Boeing planes so as long as it isn't a codeshare flight you should be great.
- PaulHoule 3y agoBetter yet, fly Breeze Airways https://www.flybreeze.com/home https://www.flybreeze.com/home which is building an all new fleet out of modern A220 and E2-Jets. Breeze is cheap enough that I am thinking about riding to some random city and discovering a reason to go there because I want to ride in an A220.
- TylerE 3y agoI'm not sure it's irrational at this point. The entire program seems to have been grossly mismanaged, and that includes on the FAA side.
- smugglerFlynn 3y agoLet's say 15 year old Toyota arrives on your Uber, instead of a shiny new one - would you cancel and wait for another car? Keep in mind that riding in both cars is statistically vastly more dangerous than flying any modern Boeing, including 737, by a huge margin. Unless flying is the only mode of transportation you ever use, avoiding Boeing will not make your life safer, it will at most make you calmer.
- TylerE 3y agoThat's not the choice though. It's choosing one new car that doesn't have a bunch of safety recalls over one that does.
- Rantenki 3y agoNew car reliability measured in warranty returns per vehicle is much WORSE over the last few years than 15 years ago. Turning your nose up at the 15 year old Toyota is probably making a choice to be _less_safe, since at least the old Toyota's recalls are known, and likely fixed. The new vehicle doesn't have enough time on the roads for all the dangerous defects to be identified and recalled yet.
- TylerE 3y agoThat's one of those numbers people throw around without understanding what it means. The vast majority of new car warranty issues are things like "I don't understand bluetooth" and "You have to actually read the manual?".
- brewdad 3y agoThe 15 year old Toyota has fewer safety features than the modern one. Side impact airbags, collision monitoring systems etc. Additionally, the 15 year old Toyota will only be as safe as the maintenance that has been done to keep it operating properly. Do you trust a random Uber driver to have kept up with everything? Back to safety systems, the 15 year old Toyota almost certainly had faulty airbags that were recalled many years ago. Something like 56,000 of those recalls still haven't been done. Which pool of vehicles does this Toyota belong to?
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- stouset 3y agoIt is irrational. Since November 2001, there has been one death aboard a major airline operating in the U.S.[1]. That was a Southwest flight where an entire engine self-destructed. It was an issue with the CFM engine, Not with anything Boeing did. You might choose to include one more. An Asiana flight tumbled end over end after arriving short at SFO. Everyone survived the crash, but a passenger was killed when an emergency responder hit them with a vehicle, unable to see them due to firefighting foam.[2] The accident was again not caused by anything related to Boeing. You are safer aboard any aircraft operated by a major American airline than you are on any other form of transportation. Including walking. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_accidents_and_... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214
- medstrom 3y agoLet's wait for statistics on the new plane :)
- m_a_g 3y agoWhy are you including only US airlines for comparing a plane model's safety? That seems very convenient. And even worse you are using other planes data as well.
- gruez 3y agoBecause most readers of this site are American, and fly on airlines from the US. When assessing their risk, it makes sense to use US statistics.
- stephenr 3y agoHi non American here, I have never and likely will never fly on an American airline, but I'd very much like to not die because some dickhead cut costs and another dickhead drilled the wrong holes in a part. The implicit assumption that all readers are Americans is ridiculous enough, making it an explicit reason for fudging the numbers to make a tire fire of public safety seem like it's just a dumpster fire is absurd.
- seagulls 3y ago[flagged]
- rootusrootus 3y agoI really hope that airlines start to offer a discount to fly on a 737MAX. I'd be all over that. Don't forget that Airbus also uses Spirit AeroSystems.