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Not really. You need to be a top jobseeker and top interviewer and have a top CV and referees, which are different. Correlated probably though !

AmericanChopper 3y ago
If you think you’re a top performer, but you don’t have a network of people who trust you and like working with you, then you’re almost certainly not a top performer.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  Top performer does mean people will trust you and like working with you, but you need those people to leave before you and work somewhere you want to work that has jobs and will hire you. You get the recommendation edge though for sure.
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  - AmericanChopper 3y ago
    Most SWEs have a tenure of less than two years with an employer, and many other industries aren't much better (or worse depending on your perspective). If you're more than a few months into your career you should expect to have started accumulating connections with people in other companies at a reasonable pace.
    - quickthrower2 3y ago
      I don’t tend to keep in social contact with people I have worked with for networking purposes. Guess it just feels a bit fake. Sure I like someone as a coworker but I need to check in once a month to keep me on their mind? For 200 people that is a lot of work! I just find there are say 10000 jobs to look at on job sites and maybe a handful of companies through connections so dragnetting searches give more opportunities than seeing who colleagues work for. And then even if someone who thinks you are great works at Google you still need to leet code etc. Not sure what advantage you get. Other than some inside knowledge of if it is worth applying to and what the interviews are like. I don’t think I am a top coder, certainly not commercially but I am OK. But the networking aspect seems like an orthogonal concern/effort to the being good at what you do.
    - wink 3y ago
      "I have worked with this person before and I want them on the team now" - true for a handful of people that were in my team, over the span of 20 years. "I was in the same company as this person at the same time, we either talked about work stuff or I heard good things by other people I trust" - true for many more, but does that really help?
      - AmericanChopper 3y ago
        > true for a handful of people that were in my team, over the span of 20 years True for the top performers you've worked with perhaps?

AmericanChopper 3y ago

If you think you’re a top performer, but you don’t have a network of people who trust you and like working with you, then you’re almost certainly not a top performer.

quickthrower2 3y ago
Top performer does mean people will trust you and like working with you, but you need those people to leave before you and work somewhere you want to work that has jobs and will hire you. You get the recommendation edge though for sure.
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- AmericanChopper 3y ago
  Most SWEs have a tenure of less than two years with an employer, and many other industries aren't much better (or worse depending on your perspective). If you're more than a few months into your career you should expect to have started accumulating connections with people in other companies at a reasonable pace.
  - quickthrower2 3y ago
    I don’t tend to keep in social contact with people I have worked with for networking purposes. Guess it just feels a bit fake. Sure I like someone as a coworker but I need to check in once a month to keep me on their mind? For 200 people that is a lot of work! I just find there are say 10000 jobs to look at on job sites and maybe a handful of companies through connections so dragnetting searches give more opportunities than seeing who colleagues work for. And then even if someone who thinks you are great works at Google you still need to leet code etc. Not sure what advantage you get. Other than some inside knowledge of if it is worth applying to and what the interviews are like. I don’t think I am a top coder, certainly not commercially but I am OK. But the networking aspect seems like an orthogonal concern/effort to the being good at what you do.
  - wink 3y ago
    "I have worked with this person before and I want them on the team now" - true for a handful of people that were in my team, over the span of 20 years. "I was in the same company as this person at the same time, we either talked about work stuff or I heard good things by other people I trust" - true for many more, but does that really help?
    - AmericanChopper 3y ago
      > true for a handful of people that were in my team, over the span of 20 years True for the top performers you've worked with perhaps?