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They can actually detect it sometimes, but I don't know how prevalent those methods are and they keep it pretty secret anyways. The blood is usually stored in

They can actually detect it sometimes, but I don't know how prevalent those methods are and they keep it pretty secret anyways. The blood is usually stored in regular transfusion bags, which are made of plastic, which contains plasticisers. Those slowly leech into the blood and can be detected when taking probes, how much of it and which type specifically they detect is another question, as you already got a bunch of plasticisers in your blood.

chii 3y ago
couldn't you require the athlete to test for red blood cell count several weeks ahead of the event (randomly chosen, so they cannot dope right before the test), and then one more right on the day? If they're doping, won't you see an unusually high count compared to their previous count?
- snovv_crash 3y ago
  Yes this is already done, it is called a biological passport and monitors a lot of physiological markers.
  - cenamus 3y ago
    However, as with all methods of doping, you can't just turn up in China or North Korea [1] and demand to have their athletes tested. They'll just 'lose' the WADA officials passports at the airport until the athletes can finish their training camps in the region. And it doesn't even matter if you test clean at the competition then, if you're able to dope completely unbothered during 9/10ths of the year. [1] By no means do I claim those are the only 'dirty' nations
    - snovv_crash 3y ago
      If athletes don't get tested they can't compete in doping controlled competitions.
      - cenamus 3y ago
        Of course the athletes trom those nations will go to the olympics, just look at how they're going to competitions, just to provide a urine sample, not even participating. Of course 'clean', to current testing standards at that point in time. It's also extremely useful to have your national anti-doping agency just help you improve your detection-evasion game, determining the limits of how much, what and when to consume the drugs. They don't get tested when it matters, just at times they can basically choose, it's not much more than a intelligence test for their team doctors at that point.
15155 3y ago
So saline infusions are disallowed, too?

chii 3y ago

couldn't you require the athlete to test for red blood cell count several weeks ahead of the event (randomly chosen, so they cannot dope right before the test), and then one more right on the day? If they're doping, won't you see an unusually high count compared to their previous count?

snovv_crash 3y ago
Yes this is already done, it is called a biological passport and monitors a lot of physiological markers.
- cenamus 3y ago
  However, as with all methods of doping, you can't just turn up in China or North Korea [1] and demand to have their athletes tested. They'll just 'lose' the WADA officials passports at the airport until the athletes can finish their training camps in the region. And it doesn't even matter if you test clean at the competition then, if you're able to dope completely unbothered during 9/10ths of the year. [1] By no means do I claim those are the only 'dirty' nations
  - snovv_crash 3y ago
    If athletes don't get tested they can't compete in doping controlled competitions.
    - cenamus 3y ago
      Of course the athletes trom those nations will go to the olympics, just look at how they're going to competitions, just to provide a urine sample, not even participating. Of course 'clean', to current testing standards at that point in time. It's also extremely useful to have your national anti-doping agency just help you improve your detection-evasion game, determining the limits of how much, what and when to consume the drugs. They don't get tested when it matters, just at times they can basically choose, it's not much more than a intelligence test for their team doctors at that point.

15155 3y ago

So saline infusions are disallowed, too?