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What if you don't know who drove it? (you might have borrowed it to a few friends but don't know who drove it when) In Sweden a clear photo of the driver is re

by tjoff 15y ago

What if you don't know who drove it? (you might have borrowed it to a few friends but don't know who drove it when) In Sweden a clear photo of the driver is required for anyone to be fined.

weego 15y ago
At that point isn't it more of a concern that the supposed completely random person driving your car isn't insured? Personal responsibility rules kick in before then.
- Dylan16807 15y ago
  Who said anything about not checking insurance? I can loan a car out to two or more trusted, verified friends in the same month and then be unable to specify who had it at a specific hour.
- tjoff 15y ago
  I wouldn't call a group of friends a random person... Sure, I could ask who was driving but I wouldn't know if they for some reason were lying. And wait, what? Why should the owner care if the driver is insured? The vehicle is insured by the owner, as required by the law.
elithrar 15y ago
> What if you don't know who drove it? (you might have borrowed it to a few friends but don't know who drove it when) As someone else touched on: in most states of Australia, the owner of the vehicle (as per the registration) is responsible. If you "don't know" who was driving your car it doesn't matter-you are responsible for the vehicle unless you have reported it stolen. Which I think is fair: if you're going to lend your car out, make sure you trust the person driving it.
- tjoff 15y ago
  I feel that nailing the owner is completely unnecessary. The owner might be responsible for the vehicle but the driver is responsible for how it is driven. Parking tickets is a reasonable exception since it's hard to prove who drove it last. For your own sake you should always trust anyone you are lending your vehicle to but you shouldn't have to care for any legal implications that might result in (other than parking tickets). In Egypt three speeding tickets means jail time (if I remember correctly), only not for the driver but for the owner. IMO that's just sick.
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by tjoff 15y ago

What if you don't know who drove it? (you might have borrowed it to a few friends but don't know who drove it when) In Sweden a clear photo of the driver is required for anyone to be fined.

weego 15y ago

At that point isn't it more of a concern that the supposed completely random person driving your car isn't insured? Personal responsibility rules kick in before then.

Dylan16807 15y ago
Who said anything about not checking insurance? I can loan a car out to two or more trusted, verified friends in the same month and then be unable to specify who had it at a specific hour.
tjoff 15y ago
I wouldn't call a group of friends a random person... Sure, I could ask who was driving but I wouldn't know if they for some reason were lying. And wait, what? Why should the owner care if the driver is insured? The vehicle is insured by the owner, as required by the law.

elithrar 15y ago

> What if you don't know who drove it? (you might have borrowed it to a few friends but don't know who drove it when) As someone else touched on: in most states of Australia, the owner of the vehicle (as per the registration) is responsible. If you "don't know" who was driving your car it doesn't matter-you are responsible for the vehicle unless you have reported it stolen. Which I think is fair: if you're going to lend your car out, make sure you trust the person driving it.

tjoff 15y ago
I feel that nailing the owner is completely unnecessary. The owner might be responsible for the vehicle but the driver is responsible for how it is driven. Parking tickets is a reasonable exception since it's hard to prove who drove it last. For your own sake you should always trust anyone you are lending your vehicle to but you shouldn't have to care for any legal implications that might result in (other than parking tickets). In Egypt three speeding tickets means jail time (if I remember correctly), only not for the driver but for the owner. IMO that's just sick.

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