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Ask HN: Anyone Tried Apple Vision Pro?

18 points by herval 3y ago

First impressions? Thoughts? Is this the future of computing?

ckl1810 3y ago
If needing to be tethered, Apple Vision Pro should’ve put more of the compute in the battery pack. Sure there are latency concerns, but Goggles should be “lite”, more “heavy” compute with the battery pack. Also seems redundant walking around with iPhone and Vision Pro battery pack. Future Vision Pros should be powered by iPhone Pro or MacBook Pro, with limited R1 chipset embedded in Goggles
- solardev 3y ago
  I hope they release a version with minimal onboard compute, no AR or fancy gizmos, just a basic gyro for stabilization. I'd only use it tethered to the Mac as a wearable usb c screen. But I guess that's not their vision...
solardev 3y ago
Can it run VScode or IntelliJ yet?
- herval 3y ago
  Connected to a mac, yes Or using GitHub codespaces
bthallplz 3y ago
Yes! Go demo it! It is indeed the future of computing.
endisneigh 3y ago
It's great. It is the future, it just needs to be lighter. It's actually relatively small, but it's heavy. Once it's as heavy as actual ski googles and has all day battery I'll drop the phone.
- neofrommatrix 3y ago
  “I’ll drop the phone” is a pretty big statement. I wonder how eyesight will be impacted. Will more people get myopia because of Apple Vision Pro..?
  - endisneigh 3y ago
    why would they? you can present the "virtual" items to appear far from you, a similar distance that you would hold your phone.
    - throw310822 3y ago
      Isn't everything on the same focal plane?
      - endisneigh 3y ago
        I only used in store but the software seems to have some way of tricking your eyes, but no macro or anything like that.
        throw310822 3y ago
        Since it has eye tracking, it could hypothetically blur objects at different distances to give a stronger impression of depth. I have no idea if this is done, feasible in practice, or completely impossible and would cause your eyeballs to explode.
      - drodgers 3y ago
        Yes, but VR headsets tend to focus everything at infinity, which is the most relaxed position for your eyes (and the opposite of starting at a nearby screen all day).
- superconduct123 3y ago
  So if you want to quickly check/reply to a notification you'd pull out ski goggles, put them on, then take them off?
tekacs 3y ago
Yes. I also own a Meta Quest Pro and abandoned it to leave it collecting dust soon after getting it. The Vision Pro wildly exceeded my expectations. I would say that it feels very good and feels like a real consumer product, not just a toy. Apple having full vertical integration and great software really helped here. I put it on upon receiving it and then didn’t take it off until the evening, charging it whilst using it along the way. It didn’t strain my neck or feel heavy. I should note that I switched to the Dual Loop band after the first hour: the Solo Loop put some stress on my face. I should caveat that I didn’t find AirPods Max to be super heavy, which others do. It gets a lot of subtle things right, it feels intuitive to use, the image quality is incredibly good and I can do everything using the pass through cameras, including reading very small text. Apps are crisp and Mac mirroring is very good. Using it in parallel with a Mac is great, because it absorbs the screen and also the keyboard and mouse, making it very easy to navigate and use on the couch or at a desk. The virtual environments are beautiful and immersive and you can adjust immersion level to bleed through objects and the world around you. The weakest points so far are… - my contacts mess with the eye tracking (my lens inserts are being delivered late) - there are some accidental ‘clicks’ with the pinch to click - this is only partially a Vision Pro thing, but Apple’s Screen Mirroring still causes a very slight amount of blur, I presume due to their video codec
- solardev 3y ago
  Thanks for sharing this! Sounds like a neat toy if they ever get it down to the sub-$500 range.
  - dgellow 3y ago
    I have almost no interest in current VR or AR and would order one right away if it would be $500-700
  - tekacs 3y ago
    I'm doing most of my work in here now, so I'd say much more than a toy. It's incredibly helpful being able to travel to wherever and sit in any random room and have multiple screens and an expansive setup to accompany the Mac, in such a small form factor. Hell, the tiers are: - With the Mac, incredibly productive. - With just a small external keyboard, very productive. - With no keyboard, still way more productive than with a phone.
andher 3y ago
It is very good. The gesture recognition, the eye tracking, video quality etc are great. The immersive video demo is outstanding, the immersive env are great, the spatial videos and photos (captured from the device) look amazing, although at this stage of the device you probably wouldn't have it on all the time at memorable moments to capture video. It is heavy. Not 'my head hurts' heavy, but 'fatigue sets in after a while of wearing heavy'. Untethered battery life isn't amazing, but I doubt this is something you would take too far from your home / office setup (at least in its current form). There is some slight latency in the pass through camera feed but its not a dealbreaker. It needs to get lighter, but I think the future will move in this direction. I don't think 'drop the phone' moment is right around the corner (although we're getting there), but I could be reaching for a vision pro, mouse, and keyboard for work in a not too distant future.

18 points by herval 3y ago

First impressions? Thoughts? Is this the future of computing?

If needing to be tethered, Apple Vision Pro should’ve put more of the compute in the battery pack. Sure there are latency concerns, but Goggles should be “lite”, more “heavy” compute with the battery pack. Also seems redundant walking around with iPhone and Vision Pro battery pack. Future Vision Pros should be powered by iPhone Pro or MacBook Pro, with limited R1 chipset embedded in Goggles

solardev 3y ago
I hope they release a version with minimal onboard compute, no AR or fancy gizmos, just a basic gyro for stabilization. I'd only use it tethered to the Mac as a wearable usb c screen. But I guess that's not their vision...

solardev 3y ago

Can it run VScode or IntelliJ yet?

herval 3y ago
Connected to a mac, yes Or using GitHub codespaces

bthallplz 3y ago

Yes! Go demo it! It is indeed the future of computing.

endisneigh 3y ago

It's great. It is the future, it just needs to be lighter. It's actually relatively small, but it's heavy. Once it's as heavy as actual ski googles and has all day battery I'll drop the phone.

neofrommatrix 3y ago
“I’ll drop the phone” is a pretty big statement. I wonder how eyesight will be impacted. Will more people get myopia because of Apple Vision Pro..?
- endisneigh 3y ago
  why would they? you can present the "virtual" items to appear far from you, a similar distance that you would hold your phone.
  - throw310822 3y ago
    Isn't everything on the same focal plane?
    - endisneigh 3y ago
      I only used in store but the software seems to have some way of tricking your eyes, but no macro or anything like that.
      - throw310822 3y ago
        Since it has eye tracking, it could hypothetically blur objects at different distances to give a stronger impression of depth. I have no idea if this is done, feasible in practice, or completely impossible and would cause your eyeballs to explode.
    - drodgers 3y ago
      Yes, but VR headsets tend to focus everything at infinity, which is the most relaxed position for your eyes (and the opposite of starting at a nearby screen all day).
superconduct123 3y ago
So if you want to quickly check/reply to a notification you'd pull out ski goggles, put them on, then take them off?

tekacs 3y ago

Yes. I also own a Meta Quest Pro and abandoned it to leave it collecting dust soon after getting it. The Vision Pro wildly exceeded my expectations. I would say that it feels very good and feels like a real consumer product, not just a toy. Apple having full vertical integration and great software really helped here. I put it on upon receiving it and then didn’t take it off until the evening, charging it whilst using it along the way. It didn’t strain my neck or feel heavy. I should note that I switched to the Dual Loop band after the first hour: the Solo Loop put some stress on my face. I should caveat that I didn’t find AirPods Max to be super heavy, which others do. It gets a lot of subtle things right, it feels intuitive to use, the image quality is incredibly good and I can do everything using the pass through cameras, including reading very small text. Apps are crisp and Mac mirroring is very good. Using it in parallel with a Mac is great, because it absorbs the screen and also the keyboard and mouse, making it very easy to navigate and use on the couch or at a desk. The virtual environments are beautiful and immersive and you can adjust immersion level to bleed through objects and the world around you. The weakest points so far are… - my contacts mess with the eye tracking (my lens inserts are being delivered late) - there are some accidental ‘clicks’ with the pinch to click - this is only partially a Vision Pro thing, but Apple’s Screen Mirroring still causes a very slight amount of blur, I presume due to their video codec

solardev 3y ago
Thanks for sharing this! Sounds like a neat toy if they ever get it down to the sub-$500 range.
- dgellow 3y ago
  I have almost no interest in current VR or AR and would order one right away if it would be $500-700
- tekacs 3y ago
  I'm doing most of my work in here now, so I'd say much more than a toy. It's incredibly helpful being able to travel to wherever and sit in any random room and have multiple screens and an expansive setup to accompany the Mac, in such a small form factor. Hell, the tiers are: - With the Mac, incredibly productive. - With just a small external keyboard, very productive. - With no keyboard, still way more productive than with a phone.

andher 3y ago

It is very good. The gesture recognition, the eye tracking, video quality etc are great. The immersive video demo is outstanding, the immersive env are great, the spatial videos and photos (captured from the device) look amazing, although at this stage of the device you probably wouldn't have it on all the time at memorable moments to capture video. It is heavy. Not 'my head hurts' heavy, but 'fatigue sets in after a while of wearing heavy'. Untethered battery life isn't amazing, but I doubt this is something you would take too far from your home / office setup (at least in its current form). There is some slight latency in the pass through camera feed but its not a dealbreaker. It needs to get lighter, but I think the future will move in this direction. I don't think 'drop the phone' moment is right around the corner (although we're getting there), but I could be reaching for a vision pro, mouse, and keyboard for work in a not too distant future.