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+112,000 Education and health +74,000 Business services +45,200 Retail +36,000 Government +23,000 Manufacturing +11,000 Leisure and hospitality +11,000 Co

+112,000 Education and health +74,000 Business services +45,200 Retail +36,000 Government +23,000 Manufacturing +11,000 Leisure and hospitality +11,000 Construction https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/02/02/business/jobs-report-january-economy/a5916f51-c831-5f67-acf7-d2023670d85e?smid=url-share https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/02/02/business/jobs-report...

pton_xd 3y ago
That article says that "after today’s revisions, employers added more than 3 million jobs in 2023. That makes it the best year for job growth since 1999." In what world was 2023 the best year for job growth?
- boplicity 3y ago
  I'm not sure what you mean? Are you saying the numbers are wrong? Anyways, you asked where the hiring was -- and I found an answer to that question.
- tekla 3y ago
  What numbers are YOU using?
- deleted 3y ago
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- mattmaroon 3y ago
  It's important to remember we're at the start of an election cycle. Every time there's a Democratic president, the Repulicans start the drum beat of "the economy is ailing" and they ramp it up as the next election comes close. Americans have trusted Republicans more on the economy since Reagan took over from Carter. It's their main PR plan, tell Americans the economy is is going to die if they pull the wrong lever. Dems have similar PR bullshit, just on different topics. So the answer to your question: in this world. Job growth in absolute numbers has been strong now for over a decade (2020 being an abberation of course) and remains so. These are numbers collected by bi-partisan and non-partisan organizations, and they're fairly consistent in their methods. Economists don't believe who is in the White House has much to do with it almost all of the time, but most people do and it feeds their anxiety. It is a rough time in the tech industry, and the first in many decades, so I'd not be surprised if many people here share your view, but for the economy as a whole, it's still tough out there to hire. A lot more people work in restaurants and factories than tech, and ask anyone in those industries how it's going.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  The tech industry is not the whole world.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  What makes you think it wasn't? Again, tech is not the whole world. I mean, 2023 was essentially late covid recovery; you'd _expect_ it to be _pretty_ good.
c0pium 3y ago
You’re currently being downvoted, I assume because those are monthly numbers as opposed to annual numbers.
- boplicity 3y ago
  > because those are monthly numbers as opposed to annual numbers. Well, this is in response to an article about January's numbers. Hence, posting January's numbers.
api 3y ago
Seems like sectors that were hit hard during COVID are recovering, while sectors that boomed during COVID (tech, remote-able work) are reverting to the mean. If that's what's happening it seems pretty predictable. Tech (at least with current VC-led business models) runs on low interest rates too, so the rate increases have hit tech growth pretty hard.
antongribok 3y ago
This checks out with my anecdata... My wife, a licensed teacher in our state, was switching jobs from one school district to another, and watching her go through that process was interesting... The interview process for any kind of school administrative position consisted of multiple rounds of interviews. The interview process for a teaching position consisted of them confirming that my wife had a pulse.

pton_xd 3y ago

That article says that "after today’s revisions, employers added more than 3 million jobs in 2023. That makes it the best year for job growth since 1999." In what world was 2023 the best year for job growth?

boplicity 3y ago
I'm not sure what you mean? Are you saying the numbers are wrong? Anyways, you asked where the hiring was -- and I found an answer to that question.
tekla 3y ago
What numbers are YOU using?
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mattmaroon 3y ago
It's important to remember we're at the start of an election cycle. Every time there's a Democratic president, the Repulicans start the drum beat of "the economy is ailing" and they ramp it up as the next election comes close. Americans have trusted Republicans more on the economy since Reagan took over from Carter. It's their main PR plan, tell Americans the economy is is going to die if they pull the wrong lever. Dems have similar PR bullshit, just on different topics. So the answer to your question: in this world. Job growth in absolute numbers has been strong now for over a decade (2020 being an abberation of course) and remains so. These are numbers collected by bi-partisan and non-partisan organizations, and they're fairly consistent in their methods. Economists don't believe who is in the White House has much to do with it almost all of the time, but most people do and it feeds their anxiety. It is a rough time in the tech industry, and the first in many decades, so I'd not be surprised if many people here share your view, but for the economy as a whole, it's still tough out there to hire. A lot more people work in restaurants and factories than tech, and ask anyone in those industries how it's going.
Workaccount2 3y ago
The tech industry is not the whole world.
rsynnott 3y ago
What makes you think it wasn't? Again, tech is not the whole world. I mean, 2023 was essentially late covid recovery; you'd _expect_ it to be _pretty_ good.

c0pium 3y ago

You’re currently being downvoted, I assume because those are monthly numbers as opposed to annual numbers.

boplicity 3y ago
> because those are monthly numbers as opposed to annual numbers. Well, this is in response to an article about January's numbers. Hence, posting January's numbers.

api 3y ago

Seems like sectors that were hit hard during COVID are recovering, while sectors that boomed during COVID (tech, remote-able work) are reverting to the mean. If that's what's happening it seems pretty predictable. Tech (at least with current VC-led business models) runs on low interest rates too, so the rate increases have hit tech growth pretty hard.

antongribok 3y ago

This checks out with my anecdata... My wife, a licensed teacher in our state, was switching jobs from one school district to another, and watching her go through that process was interesting... The interview process for any kind of school administrative position consisted of multiple rounds of interviews. The interview process for a teaching position consisted of them confirming that my wife had a pulse.