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Kind of funny that they show the iphone 15 pro and the Samsung S24 in the comparison chart, but not their own phone the google pixel 8. (I know it will perform

Kind of funny that they show the iphone 15 pro and the Samsung S24 in the comparison chart, but not their own phone the google pixel 8. (I know it will perform worse than both phones)

geor9e 3y ago
Pixel marketing touts the NPU chip, which sounds ideal for accelerating a model like this. They might have reasons for leaving it out. Perhaps it's planned to ship with a new model - announcing a new phone in a model paper would be weird. I remember them advertising some Pixel-only photo editing features in the past.
- refulgentis 3y ago
  It's great in theory until you have to pierce through several organizational boundaries to actually leverage it. Too sclerotic for it to happen regularly at scale.
  - geor9e 3y ago
    This is true. Knowing Google, their own blog post is probably the first time anyone 2 steps up the reporting ladder even heard of it.
- causality0 3y ago
  All the Pixel AI stuff runs on the cloud anyway. Just try using it in airplane mode.
  - dvngnt_ 3y ago
    not entirely true. translation is done on device
    - adamzochowski 3y ago
      Not entirely true either. If it thinks it has network but it's flakey, it won't translate offline, it will say there is network error and will give you a button to retry. No button to do offline. Additionally, in airplane mode it heavily doesn't want to translate, in my use case I have to go to saved translations as otherwise it won't even let me type what I need to translate.
      - kimixa 3y ago
        I just tried airplane mode on my pixel 7 pro and it seemed to be able to translate from the camera without problems It doesn't seem to do it "live" in the preview without network access, though. And the translation app seemed to get into a bad state and fail to download the language packs without first clearing the data, saying I need to download the pack, but the language list showing it already was. Though I haven't even opened it since I transferred it from my old phone, so if there's some phone-specific stuff going on that might have got messed up.
        numpad0 3y ago
        Pixel 8 / Tensor G3 specifically is rumored to have a performance or heat issue. The scope of that rumored issue is limited to that generation.
    - SushiHippie 3y ago
      Magic eraser in google photos is also on device. (I have not given Google Photos Network permission and don't have google play services installed) The voice recorder transcription is also on device, but I haven't gotten it to work without google play services on GrapheneOS
_the_inflator 3y ago
There is some truth to it. I don’t see it as a disadvantage, since Google markets services on both devices you mentioned. Hardly anyone will abandon its iPhone in favor of a Pixel just for a Google service. So I think it’s ok what Google did marketing wise.

Kind of funny that they show the iphone 15 pro and the Samsung S24 in the comparison chart, but not their own phone the google pixel 8. (I know it will perform worse than both phones)

geor9e 3y ago

Pixel marketing touts the NPU chip, which sounds ideal for accelerating a model like this. They might have reasons for leaving it out. Perhaps it's planned to ship with a new model - announcing a new phone in a model paper would be weird. I remember them advertising some Pixel-only photo editing features in the past.

refulgentis 3y ago
It's great in theory until you have to pierce through several organizational boundaries to actually leverage it. Too sclerotic for it to happen regularly at scale.
- geor9e 3y ago
  This is true. Knowing Google, their own blog post is probably the first time anyone 2 steps up the reporting ladder even heard of it.
causality0 3y ago
All the Pixel AI stuff runs on the cloud anyway. Just try using it in airplane mode.
- dvngnt_ 3y ago
  not entirely true. translation is done on device
  - adamzochowski 3y ago
    Not entirely true either. If it thinks it has network but it's flakey, it won't translate offline, it will say there is network error and will give you a button to retry. No button to do offline. Additionally, in airplane mode it heavily doesn't want to translate, in my use case I have to go to saved translations as otherwise it won't even let me type what I need to translate.
    - kimixa 3y ago
      I just tried airplane mode on my pixel 7 pro and it seemed to be able to translate from the camera without problems It doesn't seem to do it "live" in the preview without network access, though. And the translation app seemed to get into a bad state and fail to download the language packs without first clearing the data, saying I need to download the pack, but the language list showing it already was. Though I haven't even opened it since I transferred it from my old phone, so if there's some phone-specific stuff going on that might have got messed up.
      - numpad0 3y ago
        Pixel 8 / Tensor G3 specifically is rumored to have a performance or heat issue. The scope of that rumored issue is limited to that generation.
  - SushiHippie 3y ago
    Magic eraser in google photos is also on device. (I have not given Google Photos Network permission and don't have google play services installed) The voice recorder transcription is also on device, but I haven't gotten it to work without google play services on GrapheneOS

_the_inflator 3y ago

There is some truth to it. I don’t see it as a disadvantage, since Google markets services on both devices you mentioned. Hardly anyone will abandon its iPhone in favor of a Pixel just for a Google service. So I think it’s ok what Google did marketing wise.