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Gaming is now Microsoft's third largest business, bigger than Windows
- blastonico 3y ago[flagged]
- pletsch 3y agoWonder if Server Products includes Windows Server OS? Not really bigger than Windows if so
- ripvanwinkle 3y agoIt does, windows is now fragmented in many places including the surface laptop line
- glimshe 3y agoSee, Google, that's how it's done. Invest in an ecosystem for two decades, with many money-losing years, and you might have a shot at breaking in a highly competitive market.
- csdvrx 3y ago> See, Google, that's how it's done. Invest in an ecosystem for two decades, with many money-losing years, and you might have a shot at breaking in a highly competitive market. I don't think they have the money or the human resources necessary for that anymore :( Too little too late won't save google
- Kluggy 3y agoThey do, but what they lack is vision and will to follow through with anything.
- worldsayshi 3y agoHaven't their revenues skyrocketed lately?
- arp242 3y agoAlphabet had a $60 billion net income in 2022. In a quick check 2023 will likely be higher. What are you talking about? This entire meme where people take "I heard some vaguely bad news about $company" and/or "gigantic $company is now slightly less gigantic" to mean "$company is dead" is just silly.
- csdvrx 3y ago> What are you talking about? I was being ironic, as revenue for a company that size is easy. However, deciding what to use it for is hard. Growing new lines of business is even harder for old companies. So I was only half joking: given the poor use google had made of the resources they have, I really think they don't have enough resources (both brains and dollars) to grow new business lines because I don't think they have anything in their pipeline that can go big. Maybe I will be proven wrong (good for google!) but I think they should have been more proactive in the last 5 years: you reap what you saw, but they've cut what was trying to grow, so their harvest will be small.
- huytersd 3y agoAhaha did you just see the financials they released?
- boshalfoshal 3y agoTake a look at the balance sheet - this is probably mostly attributable to the activision aquisition.
- pjmlp 3y agoWhich required lots of money bags to make it through.
- csdvrx 3y agoThat's like how iphones mean more to Apple than MacOS Personally, as much as I loved Windows 10 (and then 11!), I saw the writing on the wall and I moved to Linux last year. I trust Microsoft a little more than Apple, as by default there's more freedom on Windows than on MacOS, but I fully expect both Apple (and Microsoft) to care about about cellphone users (and gamers) than about developers.
- AnonC 3y ago> I trust Microsoft a little more than Apple, as by default there's more freedom on Windows than on MacOS Can you elaborate a bit on “by default there’s more freedom on Windows” part?
- csdvrx 3y ago> Can you elaborate a bit on “by default there’s more freedom on Windows” part? 1) You can download and install binaries without using an appstore and without going to some settings. 2) You can install offline and create a login that's not tied to a Microsoft account (but this requires typing special commands). 3) You can then download binaries from their store without a login (ex: to get Windows Terminal) 4) You don't have to pay microsoft money if you want to make programs that run on Windows (ex: crosscompiling to a win32 target) 5) You can run Linux in WSL2 after typing a few commands on a default Windows install 6) If you don't like Linux, Microsoft gives away most of what you need to write code (but I guess XCode is like VSCode) It's not much, but I enjoyed that freedom when I was using Windows (and I couldn't understand why people could accept to use a Mac!)
- jemmyw 3y ago1) you can do this on Mac, it's the default. 2) you can install macos without an iCloud login. No special commands needed, just "not now" 3) yeah this you cannot do. but other than xcode I don't actually get anything from the store because you don't need to 4) this is true for Mac, you only need to pay to get the binary signed. Does ms give you signing without paying? 5) WSL2 is a hypervisor run Linux. You can do that on Mac too, there's a few options but orbstack is the one I use, super nice. However, for command like stuff you don't need Linux because macos is Unix anyway so you can just install most stuff natively 6) you don't even need xcode you can use the GCC toolchains It seems pretty par for the course tbh except not being able to natively run unix tools on windows is a pita
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- nyxtom 3y ago[flagged]
- willis936 3y agoThat was from a recent acquisition. Sad to say that firings are par post acquisition, but isn't a signal about the company at large.
- proc0 3y agoThere is probably a lot of overlap given MS will have a lot of infrastructure and expertise in the same are. Blizzard had so many issues even before the acquisition.
- nyxtom 3y agoI see, gotcha
- simonw 3y agoAlso... LinkedIn $8.1bn, Windows $10.8bn - so LinkedIn isn't that far behind Windows!
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- jsnell 3y agoTheir YoY growth for gaming was $2.3 billion. I believe this is also the first time they're including the Activision numbers in their financials. By what's unlikely to be coincidental, Activision's revenue in Q4 2022 was... $2.3 billion. I.e. it looks like there's been basically no organic growth, it was all driven by a single acquisition.
- hammyhavoc 3y agoNo wonder Windows sucks so hard these days.
- timbit42 3y agoDid you mean to put a comma after 'wonder'?
- amai 3y agoGaming is not bigger than Windows. Windows is an OS (only) for gaming, so it is part of Microsofts gaming ecosystem.