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The most consistent thing I hear in the hallways is "I really hope they don't make TK the CEO." People in cloud are profoundly unhappy. It's scary.

VirusNewbie 3y ago
I work in GCP, I don't get the sense that people are unhappy here. I think it's more likely that GCP, unlike the rest of google, is more of an amalgamation of many corporate cultures, (both good and bad). A little bit more Amazon/Oracle, a little less traditional 'Google'. I think most people work 45 hours a week. I don't see anyone slacking off. But it's not a death march, it pays well, there are tons of perks still. shrug It's not some magical fantasy land that some people make google out to be, but it's a nice job with interesting problems, smart coworkers, and it pays well.
- Jensson 3y ago
  > I think it's more likely that GCP, unlike the rest of google, is more of an amalgamation of many corporate cultures, (both good and bad). You don't understand why people fear the culture changing to something else? Most people there like the Google work culture, of course they would fear the culture becoming more like Microsoft or Oracle. When I worked at Google I had no deadlines, full control over what I do during my work days, full ability to prioritize different projects or help people get things done if they ask etc. If that suddenly changed it would feel horrible, as you can understand, if you are used to a typical work culture maybe you don't see it but if you are used to the typical Google one they at least had before then it is a massive owngrade.
  - VirusNewbie 3y ago
    Just to clarify, I have full control of what I work on, a lot of say in my OKRs and more freedom than anywhere else I've worked in my almost 20 year career. However, Cloud seems pretty intent on shipping and meeting deadlines so if we commit, I do feel pressure to make that deadline.
dekhn 3y ago
I would prefer they spin cloud off into its own bet and TK becomes the CEO of a real company (now he's "CEO at Google Cloud", which isn't its own business entity in alphabet, and he reports to "CEO at Alphabet"). I don't see any likely path by which Kurian would become CEO of Alphabet.
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VirusNewbie 3y ago

I work in GCP, I don't get the sense that people are unhappy here. I think it's more likely that GCP, unlike the rest of google, is more of an amalgamation of many corporate cultures, (both good and bad). A little bit more Amazon/Oracle, a little less traditional 'Google'. I think most people work 45 hours a week. I don't see anyone slacking off. But it's not a death march, it pays well, there are tons of perks still. shrug It's not some magical fantasy land that some people make google out to be, but it's a nice job with interesting problems, smart coworkers, and it pays well.

Jensson 3y ago
> I think it's more likely that GCP, unlike the rest of google, is more of an amalgamation of many corporate cultures, (both good and bad). You don't understand why people fear the culture changing to something else? Most people there like the Google work culture, of course they would fear the culture becoming more like Microsoft or Oracle. When I worked at Google I had no deadlines, full control over what I do during my work days, full ability to prioritize different projects or help people get things done if they ask etc. If that suddenly changed it would feel horrible, as you can understand, if you are used to a typical work culture maybe you don't see it but if you are used to the typical Google one they at least had before then it is a massive owngrade.
- VirusNewbie 3y ago
  Just to clarify, I have full control of what I work on, a lot of say in my OKRs and more freedom than anywhere else I've worked in my almost 20 year career. However, Cloud seems pretty intent on shipping and meeting deadlines so if we commit, I do feel pressure to make that deadline.

dekhn 3y ago

I would prefer they spin cloud off into its own bet and TK becomes the CEO of a real company (now he's "CEO at Google Cloud", which isn't its own business entity in alphabet, and he reports to "CEO at Alphabet"). I don't see any likely path by which Kurian would become CEO of Alphabet.

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