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This review from TheVerge answers some of your questions: https://www.theverge.com/24054862/apple-vision-pro-review-vr-ar-headset-features-price https://www.the

by jhatax 3y ago

This review from TheVerge answers some of your questions: https://www.theverge.com/24054862/apple-vision-pro-review-vr-ar-headset-features-price https://www.theverge.com/24054862/apple-vision-pro-review-vr... I recommend the video review as well. Seeing the video call between Nilay, Joanna, and MKB shows how much the tech has advanced but also how much it still needs to evolve to be at the level of FaceTime Video.

MBCook 3y ago
I’m excited about the Vision Pro but I now see why some reviewers called the FaceTime “Personas” creepy. They’re like talking paintings in the Haunted Mansion ride with bunch of blur and depth of field. It’s way too weird. Joanna’s looks a bit like she’s been stuck as the replacement person in the Mona Lisa. A static picture of you or maybe your Memoji (remember those?) would be far preferable. I’m surprised Apple is shipping Personas.
- crooked-v 3y ago
  I'd rather have just a VRChat avatar. Hook up the eye tracking and the mouth visemes and it'll probably be more likable than the Personas are.
  - zmmmmm 3y ago
    yeah ... i regularly do Workrooms meetings with avatars and i have to say it looks and feels much less creepy - safely outside the uncanny valley but still conveying all our natural expressions. It's actually quite weird when I think about how much I forget we are avatars and just talk to the other person as if it is really them.
- willis936 3y ago
  They've also shipped memojis. Facebook has also shipped meta. All the money in the world can't buy you an understanding of your market.
  - MBCook 3y ago
    Memojis work. They not be a style you like, I’m meh, but they work. This seems alpha. I’m sure it’s a hard problem but I feel like waiting a bit longer would have done them a better service.
- layer8 3y ago
  They look like the 3D version of police drawings.
- threeseed 3y ago
  > I’m surprised Apple is shipping Personas. They do make it clear that it's in Beta so they know there is work to do. But if you're having a Zoom meeting with a divorce lawyer or negotiating an M&A a Memoji is the last thing you want.
whycome 3y ago
> "Apple sent zeiss lens inserts for reading glasses, but I just used my soft contacts and it was fine." lol what kind of review says that. It would be like someone who doesn't even use any kind of vision correction saying "I just used it without glasses and it was fine." (edit: the review is actually quite good. but that line was bizarre)
- layer8 3y ago
  Apple said that contact lenses might interfere with eye tracking (or maybe with the iris scanning). So it’s a data point if he says he had no problems with soft contacts.
  - astrange 3y ago
    Only some kinds do (mostly cosmetics). If you go through the purchase process there's a questionnaire on if you actually need the inserts. Also, I don't think people with only near/far vision issues or prism correction know how this interacts with VR. IIRC in general you always use your far prescription and there is no support for prism.
billiam 3y ago
Nilay's video review is just fantastic-one of the best consumer technology reviews in written or multmedia form ever. Walt would be proud.

by jhatax 3y ago

MBCook 3y ago

I’m excited about the Vision Pro but I now see why some reviewers called the FaceTime “Personas” creepy. They’re like talking paintings in the Haunted Mansion ride with bunch of blur and depth of field. It’s way too weird. Joanna’s looks a bit like she’s been stuck as the replacement person in the Mona Lisa. A static picture of you or maybe your Memoji (remember those?) would be far preferable. I’m surprised Apple is shipping Personas.

crooked-v 3y ago
I'd rather have just a VRChat avatar. Hook up the eye tracking and the mouth visemes and it'll probably be more likable than the Personas are.
- zmmmmm 3y ago
  yeah ... i regularly do Workrooms meetings with avatars and i have to say it looks and feels much less creepy - safely outside the uncanny valley but still conveying all our natural expressions. It's actually quite weird when I think about how much I forget we are avatars and just talk to the other person as if it is really them.
willis936 3y ago
They've also shipped memojis. Facebook has also shipped meta. All the money in the world can't buy you an understanding of your market.
- MBCook 3y ago
  Memojis work. They not be a style you like, I’m meh, but they work. This seems alpha. I’m sure it’s a hard problem but I feel like waiting a bit longer would have done them a better service.
layer8 3y ago
They look like the 3D version of police drawings.
threeseed 3y ago
> I’m surprised Apple is shipping Personas. They do make it clear that it's in Beta so they know there is work to do. But if you're having a Zoom meeting with a divorce lawyer or negotiating an M&A a Memoji is the last thing you want.

whycome 3y ago

> "Apple sent zeiss lens inserts for reading glasses, but I just used my soft contacts and it was fine." lol what kind of review says that. It would be like someone who doesn't even use any kind of vision correction saying "I just used it without glasses and it was fine." (edit: the review is actually quite good. but that line was bizarre)

layer8 3y ago
Apple said that contact lenses might interfere with eye tracking (or maybe with the iris scanning). So it’s a data point if he says he had no problems with soft contacts.
- astrange 3y ago
  Only some kinds do (mostly cosmetics). If you go through the purchase process there's a questionnaire on if you actually need the inserts. Also, I don't think people with only near/far vision issues or prism correction know how this interacts with VR. IIRC in general you always use your far prescription and there is no support for prism.

billiam 3y ago

Nilay's video review is just fantastic-one of the best consumer technology reviews in written or multmedia form ever. Walt would be proud.