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The plane thing is funny. I can’t imagine anyone actually using VR in economy. At best you’ll annoy people next to you and the flight attendants if they need yo

The plane thing is funny. I can’t imagine anyone actually using VR in economy. At best you’ll annoy people next to you and the flight attendants if they need you to move or respond. At worst you’ll hit your head on something or whack someone with the controllers

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
I can see it being used on a long haul in economy after dinner service and before breakfast. Most of that doesn’t really apply, except for the occasional bathroom run.
- monkeynotes 3y ago
  And that's my point, it's such a tiny niche usage window, why bother to bring it?
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    If you have to take a lot of trans Pacifics in economy, you get desperate quickly. This is only the price of one discounted business class ticket.
whynotminot 3y ago
There's a lot to question about AVP, but this doesn't make sense. What are you hitting your head on sitting in your seat on an airplane? If you've got the aisle seat and someone needs to move, they do the same thing they do when you're wearing your noise canceling headphone or taking a nap--tap your shoulder. It's not rocket science. The device has breakthrough--when someone comes near (eg a flight attendant), it breaks through the immersive VR and shows them to you. You can take off the headset at that point if you choose. Again there's a lot to question about how this headset will practically work for people, but this ain't it. In fact I'd argue airplanes are one of the use-cases for this device that makes the most sense. How many places do I want to completely disappear from my environment and pretend I'm somewhere else? A long haul flight is tops on that list.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  > I'd argue airplanes are one of the use-cases for this device that makes the most sense. It's unfortunate that it can't be used on planes yet, then. I saw a video where someone tried it, and apps were just left behind in space by the airplane's movement. It makes sense why this would be the case, but it also should be obvious that if you're in a sealed room, apps you open into the room shouldn't fall through the room if it's moving.
  - LeoPanthera 3y ago
    It can be used on planes, and that was even part of the original demo. It has a "travel mode" specifically for this use case, which I assume just tells it to ignore the motion sensors and use the camera only.
    - LoganDark 3y ago
      Ah, so the creator of the video must've just forgotten to turn on the travel mode then?
- spectre3d 3y ago
  > when someone comes near (eg a flight attendant), it breaks through the immersive VR and shows them to you. Or when someone walks past to use the washroom.
whamlastxmas 3y ago
Using it in economy is actually a top use case for me. Working on my laptop is miserable for multiple reasons, the biggest of which is that I can’t even tilt the lid open past 90 degrees out of fear the person in front of me will recline and catch my screen in the seat crevice and smash it. Lots of photos of this happening online
- monkeynotes 3y ago
  I wonder how that will work out. It just looks so clunky and bulky, with limited FOV. I'd feel blinkered and constantly wanting to check my surroundings. For me an iPad is the best thing for movies on a plane. It's small, versatile, and I am aware of my surroundings. I guess we'll see how people use it, but right now it is too expensive and full of compromises for me to consider.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

I can see it being used on a long haul in economy after dinner service and before breakfast. Most of that doesn’t really apply, except for the occasional bathroom run.

monkeynotes 3y ago
And that's my point, it's such a tiny niche usage window, why bother to bring it?
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  If you have to take a lot of trans Pacifics in economy, you get desperate quickly. This is only the price of one discounted business class ticket.

whynotminot 3y ago

There's a lot to question about AVP, but this doesn't make sense. What are you hitting your head on sitting in your seat on an airplane? If you've got the aisle seat and someone needs to move, they do the same thing they do when you're wearing your noise canceling headphone or taking a nap--tap your shoulder. It's not rocket science. The device has breakthrough--when someone comes near (eg a flight attendant), it breaks through the immersive VR and shows them to you. You can take off the headset at that point if you choose. Again there's a lot to question about how this headset will practically work for people, but this ain't it. In fact I'd argue airplanes are one of the use-cases for this device that makes the most sense. How many places do I want to completely disappear from my environment and pretend I'm somewhere else? A long haul flight is tops on that list.

LoganDark 3y ago
> I'd argue airplanes are one of the use-cases for this device that makes the most sense. It's unfortunate that it can't be used on planes yet, then. I saw a video where someone tried it, and apps were just left behind in space by the airplane's movement. It makes sense why this would be the case, but it also should be obvious that if you're in a sealed room, apps you open into the room shouldn't fall through the room if it's moving.
- LeoPanthera 3y ago
  It can be used on planes, and that was even part of the original demo. It has a "travel mode" specifically for this use case, which I assume just tells it to ignore the motion sensors and use the camera only.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    Ah, so the creator of the video must've just forgotten to turn on the travel mode then?
spectre3d 3y ago
> when someone comes near (eg a flight attendant), it breaks through the immersive VR and shows them to you. Or when someone walks past to use the washroom.

whamlastxmas 3y ago

Using it in economy is actually a top use case for me. Working on my laptop is miserable for multiple reasons, the biggest of which is that I can’t even tilt the lid open past 90 degrees out of fear the person in front of me will recline and catch my screen in the seat crevice and smash it. Lots of photos of this happening online

monkeynotes 3y ago
I wonder how that will work out. It just looks so clunky and bulky, with limited FOV. I'd feel blinkered and constantly wanting to check my surroundings. For me an iPad is the best thing for movies on a plane. It's small, versatile, and I am aware of my surroundings. I guess we'll see how people use it, but right now it is too expensive and full of compromises for me to consider.