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Out of curiosity, what are you using for work on your Quest? I also have a Q2 and have tried, maybe not too seriously, several of the screen sharing apps to do

Out of curiosity, what are you using for work on your Quest? I also have a Q2 and have tried, maybe not too seriously, several of the screen sharing apps to do work but couldn't quite get past the resolution and lag. Perhaps that has gotten better since, it's been some time. Instead now I use it for entertainment and very much like it, but if I could make that next leap it would be great!

swozey 3y ago
Virtual Desktop for desktop work
Topfi 3y ago
For that purpose, the difference between the Q2 and Q3 was so vast that I cannot oversell it. While it's still not perfect due to the resolution, the switch to pancake lenses made screencasting to the Q3 something I could do for many hours at a time and enjoy it, whereas on the Q2 with the limited sweet spot in the center, it was really only for very specific use cases. On the Q2, even slightly off center becomes unreadable; on the Q3, you can move your eyes right to the panel border and still read text at the edge. The main use case is heavy multitasking with Confluence, Jira and an IDE in full-sized windows.
- tfandango 3y ago
  Thank you. Your experience with the Quest 2 mirrors my own. I'm undecided if I will try a Q3 or skip a generation. It definitely seems like things are moving in the right direction and I'm excited about that!
  - tuscen 3y ago
    I'd advice you to skip another generation. I can give my experience with it. I have Q3 and try to use it for work from time to time and it is still not enough to replace an actual monitor, at least for me. FOV of 110 degress is too narrow, maybe 140 degress would solve it, but I'm not sure. The thing is that apparently I glance to content without turning my head a lot and I discovered it when I tried to use Q3 for actual work. Even though the lenses and POV are much better than on Q2 and other wired VR glasses it's not enough for me still. Also sometimes reflections in the lenses are too bright and distracting and I don't know how to fix this. Resolution is much much better than Q2 and Quest S that I also have, but it's still not enough. And IPS panel is the biggest downside of it. That should've use OLED instead. But the main problem that stops me from using it is the smoothness of the whole process of starting to work. You can't just sit behind you desk, put on the glasses and start working. The whole process reminds me of preflight preparation: you need to ensure that the software is running and correctly setup on you PC and that's not always the case. You always need to ensure that you have controllers by your side, because hand tracking often fails, and Q3 often struggles to find my hands at all. Basically, software wise it's not there for a 100% smooth ride like with screens where you just sit at your desk and start to work without a single hitch. In short, it's like a death by thousand cuts. Some people can tolerate some of them and can use Q3 for work, but in my case I wasn't able to tolerate any of them and that kills it for me for now. I hope for Q4 or maybe Quest Pro 2 after seeing a slim prototype that Mark showed some time ago.
    - tfandango 3y ago
      Thanks! I really appreciate your insights on this. I do enjoy the Q2 for entertainment and I use it a lot in that context, since I enjoy this as is, I feel like I can at least skip a generation since the work-part isn't there. Incidentally it seems like the apple set does a much better job of this if you are in the apple ecosystem, but at such a high cost and limit on the entertainment options, at least for now.
    - spectre3d 3y ago
      >You can't just sit behind you desk, put on the glasses and start working. I just sit behind my desk, put on the glasses and start working. Maybe you’re not aware of the feature that both Meta Remote Desktop and Virtual Desktop offer, to auto-connect when the headset is put on. No friction. OTOH, VD only permits 1 virtual display, and Meta RD offers 3x1080p ones, but both options are plenty sharp to work on. The free Desktop+ overlay for SteamVR, however provides unlimited virtual displays of any resolution. That’s what I prefer, but it doesn’t have the auto-connect feature like the other 2. Not sure what you think you need hand tracking for, I use my keyboard and mouse like I do without the headset.
      - tuscen 3y ago
        I've tried to use Meta Remote Desktop and it's full of bugs, e.g. it just can't keep being authenticated with my Meta account, so I can't use it at all, even though one of last updates mentioned the fix for this particular bug. I've also tried Virtual Desktop and it can't remember my Meta Quest username between restarts so I must always remember to enter the username. Regarding hand tracking it's just more comfortable for me to use my hands to control MQ interface without looking for controllers every time I need to do something in VR. It might work for your specific circumstances or maybe you're more tolerant to it's issues but as a whole it doesn't work for me at the moment. I've seen a few reviews of AVP and it seems to tick more boxes for me than MQ. But the problem right now are the price and Apple-only ecosystem, i.e. there's no way to use virtual desktops with non-Mac computers. The thing is that the current state of VR regarding work inside it is still mostly for enthusiasts who are willing to tolerate early-adopters' issues and I'm not one of them. I need it to work flawlessly like a regular setup with a monitor.
tinyhouse 3y ago
Same. I find it useless for work stuff. I have a large screen at home and in the office. I don't need to look at a large screen through a heavy headset on my face that I feel bad after wearing for more than 30 min. I also don't find the VR meeting experience better than a zoom call.

swozey 3y ago

Virtual Desktop for desktop work

Topfi 3y ago

For that purpose, the difference between the Q2 and Q3 was so vast that I cannot oversell it. While it's still not perfect due to the resolution, the switch to pancake lenses made screencasting to the Q3 something I could do for many hours at a time and enjoy it, whereas on the Q2 with the limited sweet spot in the center, it was really only for very specific use cases. On the Q2, even slightly off center becomes unreadable; on the Q3, you can move your eyes right to the panel border and still read text at the edge. The main use case is heavy multitasking with Confluence, Jira and an IDE in full-sized windows.

tfandango 3y ago
Thank you. Your experience with the Quest 2 mirrors my own. I'm undecided if I will try a Q3 or skip a generation. It definitely seems like things are moving in the right direction and I'm excited about that!
- tuscen 3y ago
  I'd advice you to skip another generation. I can give my experience with it. I have Q3 and try to use it for work from time to time and it is still not enough to replace an actual monitor, at least for me. FOV of 110 degress is too narrow, maybe 140 degress would solve it, but I'm not sure. The thing is that apparently I glance to content without turning my head a lot and I discovered it when I tried to use Q3 for actual work. Even though the lenses and POV are much better than on Q2 and other wired VR glasses it's not enough for me still. Also sometimes reflections in the lenses are too bright and distracting and I don't know how to fix this. Resolution is much much better than Q2 and Quest S that I also have, but it's still not enough. And IPS panel is the biggest downside of it. That should've use OLED instead. But the main problem that stops me from using it is the smoothness of the whole process of starting to work. You can't just sit behind you desk, put on the glasses and start working. The whole process reminds me of preflight preparation: you need to ensure that the software is running and correctly setup on you PC and that's not always the case. You always need to ensure that you have controllers by your side, because hand tracking often fails, and Q3 often struggles to find my hands at all. Basically, software wise it's not there for a 100% smooth ride like with screens where you just sit at your desk and start to work without a single hitch. In short, it's like a death by thousand cuts. Some people can tolerate some of them and can use Q3 for work, but in my case I wasn't able to tolerate any of them and that kills it for me for now. I hope for Q4 or maybe Quest Pro 2 after seeing a slim prototype that Mark showed some time ago.
  - tfandango 3y ago
    Thanks! I really appreciate your insights on this. I do enjoy the Q2 for entertainment and I use it a lot in that context, since I enjoy this as is, I feel like I can at least skip a generation since the work-part isn't there. Incidentally it seems like the apple set does a much better job of this if you are in the apple ecosystem, but at such a high cost and limit on the entertainment options, at least for now.
  - spectre3d 3y ago
    >You can't just sit behind you desk, put on the glasses and start working. I just sit behind my desk, put on the glasses and start working. Maybe you’re not aware of the feature that both Meta Remote Desktop and Virtual Desktop offer, to auto-connect when the headset is put on. No friction. OTOH, VD only permits 1 virtual display, and Meta RD offers 3x1080p ones, but both options are plenty sharp to work on. The free Desktop+ overlay for SteamVR, however provides unlimited virtual displays of any resolution. That’s what I prefer, but it doesn’t have the auto-connect feature like the other 2. Not sure what you think you need hand tracking for, I use my keyboard and mouse like I do without the headset.
    - tuscen 3y ago
      I've tried to use Meta Remote Desktop and it's full of bugs, e.g. it just can't keep being authenticated with my Meta account, so I can't use it at all, even though one of last updates mentioned the fix for this particular bug. I've also tried Virtual Desktop and it can't remember my Meta Quest username between restarts so I must always remember to enter the username. Regarding hand tracking it's just more comfortable for me to use my hands to control MQ interface without looking for controllers every time I need to do something in VR. It might work for your specific circumstances or maybe you're more tolerant to it's issues but as a whole it doesn't work for me at the moment. I've seen a few reviews of AVP and it seems to tick more boxes for me than MQ. But the problem right now are the price and Apple-only ecosystem, i.e. there's no way to use virtual desktops with non-Mac computers. The thing is that the current state of VR regarding work inside it is still mostly for enthusiasts who are willing to tolerate early-adopters' issues and I'm not one of them. I need it to work flawlessly like a regular setup with a monitor.

tinyhouse 3y ago

Same. I find it useless for work stuff. I have a large screen at home and in the office. I don't need to look at a large screen through a heavy headset on my face that I feel bad after wearing for more than 30 min. I also don't find the VR meeting experience better than a zoom call.