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Phrenology is entirely different discipline than judging intelligince by looking at the faces; the latter has obvious correlation with developmental defects, su

Phrenology is entirely different discipline than judging intelligince by looking at the faces; the latter has obvious correlation with developmental defects, such Down's syndrome, fetal alcohol syndrome etc.

klyrs 3y ago
Motte: judging people's intelligence based on their skin color Bailey: judging people's intelligence based visible developmental defects
- refulgentis 3y ago
  Lol (nonironically)
- SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
  Are you delusional? what does phrenology have to do with skin color? or facial features?
  - klyrs 3y ago
    You keep making personal attacks, they're not helping your case. And yes, TFA's list of facial features includes "complexion," aka skin color. Weird hill to die on, especially if you don't actually know what you're standing for. But even facial features such as "broad, flat nose" are strongly correlated to race. And that's what you meant by "heavily politicized," isn't it? Methinks your innocence in this regard is feigned. After all, fiction writers have been leaning on racist tropes since time immemorial, doesn't that make them a valid source of truth in your line of reasoning?
    - SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
      I actually do know, what is my "hill". What is yours? I grew up and live in multiracial city, where there is no paranoia about seeing racism everywhere. This is you, Americans (and Westerners in general) are traumatized by notion of being racist (because deeply inside you really are). All your posturing about being offended by seeing illusory racism in someones words is guilt overcompensation. Having said, you really seem to be too narrow minded, to understand that within any race there are faces that look smarter, irrespectively of particular features; the puzzling factor rising from the combination of the features matter. I have no problems finding the face of say Habib Koite higher IQ than face of say Yoav Gallant or some random truck driver in Gifu prefecture. I actually stressed out that observation (made by poor, accused by your being racist, fiction writers) that intelligence has complex correlation with facial features is persistent across races and time periods. What you are doing now is typical identitarian pretend-antiracist-but-really-crypto-racist notion, that blacks, asians etc. cannot have good share of stupids in their groups, or they are inferior and deprived of ability to see that difference in faces. Good luck with that, buddy.
      - klyrs 3y ago
        > because deeply inside you really are Only, I'm not offended by this, because I understand that I have absorbed racist biases from my environs (not according to some hifalutin theory -- I've witnessed my own failures in this regard). Such is the human condition. You're the one getting your underwear tangled over that "accusation."

klyrs 3y ago

Motte: judging people's intelligence based on their skin color Bailey: judging people's intelligence based visible developmental defects

refulgentis 3y ago
Lol (nonironically)
SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
Are you delusional? what does phrenology have to do with skin color? or facial features?
- klyrs 3y ago
  You keep making personal attacks, they're not helping your case. And yes, TFA's list of facial features includes "complexion," aka skin color. Weird hill to die on, especially if you don't actually know what you're standing for. But even facial features such as "broad, flat nose" are strongly correlated to race. And that's what you meant by "heavily politicized," isn't it? Methinks your innocence in this regard is feigned. After all, fiction writers have been leaning on racist tropes since time immemorial, doesn't that make them a valid source of truth in your line of reasoning?
  - SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
    I actually do know, what is my "hill". What is yours? I grew up and live in multiracial city, where there is no paranoia about seeing racism everywhere. This is you, Americans (and Westerners in general) are traumatized by notion of being racist (because deeply inside you really are). All your posturing about being offended by seeing illusory racism in someones words is guilt overcompensation. Having said, you really seem to be too narrow minded, to understand that within any race there are faces that look smarter, irrespectively of particular features; the puzzling factor rising from the combination of the features matter. I have no problems finding the face of say Habib Koite higher IQ than face of say Yoav Gallant or some random truck driver in Gifu prefecture. I actually stressed out that observation (made by poor, accused by your being racist, fiction writers) that intelligence has complex correlation with facial features is persistent across races and time periods. What you are doing now is typical identitarian pretend-antiracist-but-really-crypto-racist notion, that blacks, asians etc. cannot have good share of stupids in their groups, or they are inferior and deprived of ability to see that difference in faces. Good luck with that, buddy.
    - klyrs 3y ago
      > because deeply inside you really are Only, I'm not offended by this, because I understand that I have absorbed racist biases from my environs (not according to some hifalutin theory -- I've witnessed my own failures in this regard). Such is the human condition. You're the one getting your underwear tangled over that "accusation."