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We had dividers that went to your chest height and no doors. Like a prison. This was to eliminate smoking in the bathrooms. It did, and nobody used them. We

We had dividers that went to your chest height and no doors. Like a prison. This was to eliminate smoking in the bathrooms. It did, and nobody used them. We just smoked outside the back of the building.

ajsnigrutin 3y ago
We had full on stalls with brick/cement walls up to the ceiling (stall sized still, but private), so even the farts were muffled. Communist construction was no joke. Later in college, with some "modernized", capitalist toilets, we got an "open room", thin wooden "walls" that left the botton 20 centimeters open and left a gap on top. In the old part of the buildings, we still had proper stalls, some even with a small sink inside the stall.
- brnt 3y ago
  I could never do number two in those board separated toilets. This was primary school, fortunately my high school had proper toilets.
owl57 3y ago
> We just smoked outside the back of the building. I don't care if someone smokes, as long as I don't have to inhale the smoke. A lot of campaigns against smoking in public places, from school until today, made life unpleasant and dangerous for people like me: smoke filled the few remaining non-enforced places, from bathrooms to elevators to airport exits. Turns out there's correlation between "smoking ban not enforced" and "I can't avoid going there". Whenever they instead end up with smokers gathering in the corner of the street I can just go around: that's great, hope that no one disturbs smoking in that corner as long as possible!
- fennecbutt 3y ago
  Actually, the modern thinking is that "anybody smoking is bad for all of us because it puts unnecessary pressure on the healthcare system". Same thing with drinking and other harmful things. Well that is for countries that have public healthcare that is.
  - razakel 3y ago
    At least in the UK, taxation on tobacco more than covers the cost of smoking-related illnesses.
    - averageRoyalty 3y ago
      The same in Australia, but the line keeps getting hoisted out (as the tax keeps going up, roughly $2 per cigarette currently).
  - marssaxman 3y ago
    That makes a disturbingly good argument against public healthcare systems, which is awkward.
    - fennecbutt 3y ago
      Sure, you keep your system, I'll keep mine. Gladly.
  - averageRoyalty 3y ago
    > Same thing with drinking and other harmful things. I'm not sure where you're from, but other burdensome things aren't looked at that way in Australia, nor in other public healthcare countries I've been to. Drinking, low quality/high calorie food, Netflix, food delivery, extreme sports - all things that place pressure on healthcare - yet I've never seen someone approach somebody eating McDonalds and asking then to not do that for the good of society, as I have with smokers.

ajsnigrutin 3y ago

We had full on stalls with brick/cement walls up to the ceiling (stall sized still, but private), so even the farts were muffled. Communist construction was no joke. Later in college, with some "modernized", capitalist toilets, we got an "open room", thin wooden "walls" that left the botton 20 centimeters open and left a gap on top. In the old part of the buildings, we still had proper stalls, some even with a small sink inside the stall.

brnt 3y ago
I could never do number two in those board separated toilets. This was primary school, fortunately my high school had proper toilets.

owl57 3y ago

> We just smoked outside the back of the building. I don't care if someone smokes, as long as I don't have to inhale the smoke. A lot of campaigns against smoking in public places, from school until today, made life unpleasant and dangerous for people like me: smoke filled the few remaining non-enforced places, from bathrooms to elevators to airport exits. Turns out there's correlation between "smoking ban not enforced" and "I can't avoid going there". Whenever they instead end up with smokers gathering in the corner of the street I can just go around: that's great, hope that no one disturbs smoking in that corner as long as possible!

fennecbutt 3y ago
Actually, the modern thinking is that "anybody smoking is bad for all of us because it puts unnecessary pressure on the healthcare system". Same thing with drinking and other harmful things. Well that is for countries that have public healthcare that is.
- razakel 3y ago
  At least in the UK, taxation on tobacco more than covers the cost of smoking-related illnesses.
  - averageRoyalty 3y ago
    The same in Australia, but the line keeps getting hoisted out (as the tax keeps going up, roughly $2 per cigarette currently).
- marssaxman 3y ago
  That makes a disturbingly good argument against public healthcare systems, which is awkward.
  - fennecbutt 3y ago
    Sure, you keep your system, I'll keep mine. Gladly.
- averageRoyalty 3y ago
  > Same thing with drinking and other harmful things. I'm not sure where you're from, but other burdensome things aren't looked at that way in Australia, nor in other public healthcare countries I've been to. Drinking, low quality/high calorie food, Netflix, food delivery, extreme sports - all things that place pressure on healthcare - yet I've never seen someone approach somebody eating McDonalds and asking then to not do that for the good of society, as I have with smokers.