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Everyone talking in defense of Taylor Swift up to the White House has created massive Streisand effect. Yet AI porn is here for few years at least.

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Shawnj2 3y ago
AI porn trained off of a dataset of people who are fine being in an AI porn dataset vs. AI porn of celebrities who understandably go to great lengths to protect their image rights are different categories.
gizmo686 3y ago
This is not about Taylor Swift. If you want to fight against non consensual AI porn, you need someone to be the face of it. Swift is a good candidate because: A) She comes with a lot of free PR, that you would have to work for if you wanted to build up a token victim from nothing and B) She is already a massivly well known public figure. She has money, a platform, a PR team; she will be fine. Heck, she probably already had photoshopped poen of her floating around the internet for years. Swift will be absolutely fine with being made the face of this. Your random Jane Doe would not.
- Teever 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell You're right that it's not about her but wrong that she's a good candidate.
- _heimdall 3y ago
  Taylor Swift also isn't one to shy away from a public moral stand. She picked a fight with streaming services and her former label. This seems like one I could see her stepping in to take a public stand on.
- greenhexagon 3y ago
  | If you want to fight against non consensual AI porn, you need someone to be the face of it Isn't this just an emotionally charged way of suggesting people fight against artistic freedom, freedom of speech, etc? I have literally zero concern about someone making AI porn that looks like me (or my spouse, family, celebrities, politicians, etc). People have already had photoshop and before that imaginations. It's maybe a little weird, icky or uncomfortable to think about, but that's a small price to pay for living in a free liberal democracy. I'm far more concerned that this will give powerful people another tool to crack down on journalists, artists, activists, documentary filmmakers, etc. Or even just any independent creative who attempts to publish work outside of one of the major copyright cartel corporations.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    Whenever anyone says "I have literally zero concern about someone doing X about me" they should probably take a moment to check their privilege and consider first why someone else could be concerned about that. Maybe try a search. As an example, I searched for "effects of fake porn" and got the following article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/love-and-sex-in-the-digital-age/202302/can-deepfake-porn-impact-your-life https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/love-and-sex-in-the-... : Kristen Zaleski, Director of Forensic Mental Health at USC’s Keck Human Rights Clinic, recently told the Washington Post that she’s been working with a schoolteacher who lost her job after parents and administrators learned about deepfake porn using her likeness. : One recent study reports that 96 percent of deepfake victims are sexualized, and nearly all them are women, though males (especially politicians) and even children have also been abused in this way. The same research finds that many victims are harassed or extorted based on this artificially generated imagery. Are you male, by chance, and not a celeb or politician? Then you're not the target of fake porn, so are unlikely to have been exposed to the unexpected consequences of such. Edit to add another article: https://healthnews.com/mental-health/anxiety-depression/the-damage-caused-by-deepfake-porn/ https://healthnews.com/mental-health/anxiety-depression/the-... : What’s more chilling is that anyone can use deepfake porn technology to humiliate and degrade a woman sexually without her consent. The problem is becoming so widespread that a woman is not even safe going to the gym anymore without being at risk of having her photo taken without her consent and placed in a deepfake video. Can you step outside of your own point of view enough to imagine what such a scenario could do to a person who fears being made an object of lust or ridicule? If you can't, then just click the link and read down a little bit, because the article explicitly mentions the possible psychological harms.

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Shawnj2 3y ago

AI porn trained off of a dataset of people who are fine being in an AI porn dataset vs. AI porn of celebrities who understandably go to great lengths to protect their image rights are different categories.

gizmo686 3y ago

This is not about Taylor Swift. If you want to fight against non consensual AI porn, you need someone to be the face of it. Swift is a good candidate because: A) She comes with a lot of free PR, that you would have to work for if you wanted to build up a token victim from nothing and B) She is already a massivly well known public figure. She has money, a platform, a PR team; she will be fine. Heck, she probably already had photoshopped poen of her floating around the internet for years. Swift will be absolutely fine with being made the face of this. Your random Jane Doe would not.

Teever 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell You're right that it's not about her but wrong that she's a good candidate.
_heimdall 3y ago
Taylor Swift also isn't one to shy away from a public moral stand. She picked a fight with streaming services and her former label. This seems like one I could see her stepping in to take a public stand on.
greenhexagon 3y ago
| If you want to fight against non consensual AI porn, you need someone to be the face of it Isn't this just an emotionally charged way of suggesting people fight against artistic freedom, freedom of speech, etc? I have literally zero concern about someone making AI porn that looks like me (or my spouse, family, celebrities, politicians, etc). People have already had photoshop and before that imaginations. It's maybe a little weird, icky or uncomfortable to think about, but that's a small price to pay for living in a free liberal democracy. I'm far more concerned that this will give powerful people another tool to crack down on journalists, artists, activists, documentary filmmakers, etc. Or even just any independent creative who attempts to publish work outside of one of the major copyright cartel corporations.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  Whenever anyone says "I have literally zero concern about someone doing X about me" they should probably take a moment to check their privilege and consider first why someone else could be concerned about that. Maybe try a search. As an example, I searched for "effects of fake porn" and got the following article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/love-and-sex-in-the-digital-age/202302/can-deepfake-porn-impact-your-life https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/love-and-sex-in-the-... : Kristen Zaleski, Director of Forensic Mental Health at USC’s Keck Human Rights Clinic, recently told the Washington Post that she’s been working with a schoolteacher who lost her job after parents and administrators learned about deepfake porn using her likeness. : One recent study reports that 96 percent of deepfake victims are sexualized, and nearly all them are women, though males (especially politicians) and even children have also been abused in this way. The same research finds that many victims are harassed or extorted based on this artificially generated imagery. Are you male, by chance, and not a celeb or politician? Then you're not the target of fake porn, so are unlikely to have been exposed to the unexpected consequences of such. Edit to add another article: https://healthnews.com/mental-health/anxiety-depression/the-damage-caused-by-deepfake-porn/ https://healthnews.com/mental-health/anxiety-depression/the-... : What’s more chilling is that anyone can use deepfake porn technology to humiliate and degrade a woman sexually without her consent. The problem is becoming so widespread that a woman is not even safe going to the gym anymore without being at risk of having her photo taken without her consent and placed in a deepfake video. Can you step outside of your own point of view enough to imagine what such a scenario could do to a person who fears being made an object of lust or ridicule? If you can't, then just click the link and read down a little bit, because the article explicitly mentions the possible psychological harms.