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Habr has been utter garbage, for a long time. For people who are interested in it, I highly recommend to switch to russian content in the top right button and u

Habr has been utter garbage, for a long time. For people who are interested in it, I highly recommend to switch to russian content in the top right button and use google translate to see what are some of the opinions average user there exhibits. Forming that kind of obnoxious audience was a long process, first "woke" people were massively downvoted and banned, then people who thought women deserve same rights as men, then anyone who criticized government. At some point into that everyone who previously wrote any interesting piece of content just... left. The current state of the platform is what happens when you go the "no politics please" route.

kgeist 3y ago
>"woke" people were massively downvoted and banned, then people who thought women deserve same rights as men, then anyone who criticized government Interesting, the poster below has the opposite view: >Owners and moderators of Habr despise Russia >they always optimized the karma system to stimulate the authors not for posting original interesting content but to stimulate those who hate Russia and downvote those who love their country My take would be that Habr is OK with the both views and people only notice the bans/downvotes when posts which align with their political views are banned/downvoted.
- actualwitch 3y ago
  I mean, to know who is right the only way is to go back and look for yourself, correct? https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/653685/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/6...
  - throwaway_5753 3y ago
    Looks pretty generically neutral to me. What do you find objectionable here? Edit: I guess the comments are loading for me in goog translate. Is that what I should be looking at?
    - actualwitch 3y ago
      That post was a reaction to the war and a lot of people trying to talk about it and getting banned for it. It was one of the major exodus triggers after which the site was practically empty of engagement for months. Here's a link to comments, the gist is a bunch of people are mad that admins are choosing the "no politics" route: https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/653685/comments/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/6...
      - vdaea 3y ago
        People who like to talk politics absolutely everywhere have ruined every single social network I know. "No politics" is probably the most intelligent way to go.
        actualwitch 3y ago
        You'd fit right in on habr, in a society specifically built to not discuss politics. Complimentary tumbleweed in comments included!
        layer8 3y ago
        The problem is that what is considered “politics” has vastly expanded over the past decade or so. Most controversial topics today wouldn’t have been considered “politics” in the past.
        vdaea 3y ago
        >Habr is a Russian collaborative blog about IT, computer science and anything related to the Internet, owned by TechMedia. In this context, demanding the staff makes public where they stand in the conflict in Ukraine is toxic.
        actualwitch 3y ago
        In context of habr, even asking "why'd my internet/corporate vpn stopped working?" or "why did I suddenly get summoned for a medical checkup to enlistment office?" are politics.
marsven_422 3y ago
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aaron695 3y ago
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SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
Habr IMHO has become shit because lots of Russian IT, the very best ones, have left Russia since 2022.
- kgeist 3y ago
  Maybe our company is not representative, but the only engineers I know of who left Russia (about 5 people out of ~150) - I wouldn't say they were the best engineers at the company. They only left after the mobilization started (feared of being drafted) and they already were a minority group of vocal Putin critics before. So to say that the best engineers left Russia is not true, from my perspective: it looks like it better aligns with people's political views, not their expertise. Maybe it's different in Moscow, which is less conservative (we aren't Moscow-based).
  - SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
    I live in Central Asia, and we have huge influx of Russian engineers here. I did not ask which city they are from, but they all are good. Better than average I think.
    - geraldhh 3y ago
      emigrants probably have above average motivation
orangetuba 3y ago
Please take your activism elsewhere...

kgeist 3y ago

>"woke" people were massively downvoted and banned, then people who thought women deserve same rights as men, then anyone who criticized government Interesting, the poster below has the opposite view: >Owners and moderators of Habr despise Russia >they always optimized the karma system to stimulate the authors not for posting original interesting content but to stimulate those who hate Russia and downvote those who love their country My take would be that Habr is OK with the both views and people only notice the bans/downvotes when posts which align with their political views are banned/downvoted.

actualwitch 3y ago
I mean, to know who is right the only way is to go back and look for yourself, correct? https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/653685/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/6...
- throwaway_5753 3y ago
  Looks pretty generically neutral to me. What do you find objectionable here? Edit: I guess the comments are loading for me in goog translate. Is that what I should be looking at?
  - actualwitch 3y ago
    That post was a reaction to the war and a lot of people trying to talk about it and getting banned for it. It was one of the major exodus triggers after which the site was practically empty of engagement for months. Here's a link to comments, the gist is a bunch of people are mad that admins are choosing the "no politics" route: https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/653685/comments/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/6...
    - vdaea 3y ago
      People who like to talk politics absolutely everywhere have ruined every single social network I know. "No politics" is probably the most intelligent way to go.
      - actualwitch 3y ago
        You'd fit right in on habr, in a society specifically built to not discuss politics. Complimentary tumbleweed in comments included!
      - layer8 3y ago
        The problem is that what is considered “politics” has vastly expanded over the past decade or so. Most controversial topics today wouldn’t have been considered “politics” in the past.
        vdaea 3y ago
        >Habr is a Russian collaborative blog about IT, computer science and anything related to the Internet, owned by TechMedia. In this context, demanding the staff makes public where they stand in the conflict in Ukraine is toxic.
        actualwitch 3y ago
        In context of habr, even asking "why'd my internet/corporate vpn stopped working?" or "why did I suddenly get summoned for a medical checkup to enlistment office?" are politics.

marsven_422 3y ago

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aaron695 3y ago

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SomeoneFromCA 3y ago

Habr IMHO has become shit because lots of Russian IT, the very best ones, have left Russia since 2022.

kgeist 3y ago
Maybe our company is not representative, but the only engineers I know of who left Russia (about 5 people out of ~150) - I wouldn't say they were the best engineers at the company. They only left after the mobilization started (feared of being drafted) and they already were a minority group of vocal Putin critics before. So to say that the best engineers left Russia is not true, from my perspective: it looks like it better aligns with people's political views, not their expertise. Maybe it's different in Moscow, which is less conservative (we aren't Moscow-based).
- SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
  I live in Central Asia, and we have huge influx of Russian engineers here. I did not ask which city they are from, but they all are good. Better than average I think.
  - geraldhh 3y ago
    emigrants probably have above average motivation

orangetuba 3y ago

Please take your activism elsewhere...