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Here in Russia we have a popular platform for long-form tech blogs called Habr. It's basically the go to platform for software and hardware engineers (for examp

by kgeist 3y ago

Here in Russia we have a popular platform for long-form tech blogs called Habr. It's basically the go to platform for software and hardware engineers (for example, it's where Flipper Zero started). Usually, to have a good article, especially if you represent a company, you need to spend quite some time on editing your post to perfection, because the platform also has karma. Karma is important for corporate blogs - it's good for the image (Habr also has Habr Career - if readers are interested in your posts they may apply for a job at your company). Previously, when our company maintained its blog a few years ago, we even had to hire a copywriter to proof-read our posts, and a designer for the pictures. The main problem was that it took a lot of time of our engineers to write a single post (plus the back-and-forth with the copywriter/designer). We also had difficulties with finding employees who want to spend time on all of that. Not long ago Habr introduced short-form posts, exactly to allow individual writers and companies write "rambly twitter threads" without investing too much time in it (while still providing value, in small bits). This year we want to restart our corporate blog - we had a call with Habr staff a few days ago and they recommended to try the new short-form format. We haven't tried it yet, but it sounds like the both formats have their place.

8n4vidtmkvmk 3y ago
This sounds like the exact same argument as long vs short form video.
anticodon 3y ago
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- user432678 3y ago
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  - tux3 3y ago
    Bad. Do not take the bait. You don't keep you shirt clean by joining the mudfight.
- YeahThisIsMe 3y ago
  Well, there's a very good reason not to want content praising Russia, but I think HN avoids such topics entirely.
- juped 3y ago
  "copy writers" is the term you're looking for, although it's a broad and neutral term that encompasses perfectly reasonable things as well as SEO spam
actualwitch 3y ago
Habr has been utter garbage, for a long time. For people who are interested in it, I highly recommend to switch to russian content in the top right button and use google translate to see what are some of the opinions average user there exhibits. Forming that kind of obnoxious audience was a long process, first "woke" people were massively downvoted and banned, then people who thought women deserve same rights as men, then anyone who criticized government. At some point into that everyone who previously wrote any interesting piece of content just... left. The current state of the platform is what happens when you go the "no politics please" route.
- kgeist 3y ago
  >"woke" people were massively downvoted and banned, then people who thought women deserve same rights as men, then anyone who criticized government Interesting, the poster below has the opposite view: >Owners and moderators of Habr despise Russia >they always optimized the karma system to stimulate the authors not for posting original interesting content but to stimulate those who hate Russia and downvote those who love their country My take would be that Habr is OK with the both views and people only notice the bans/downvotes when posts which align with their political views are banned/downvoted.
  - actualwitch 3y ago
    I mean, to know who is right the only way is to go back and look for yourself, correct? https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/653685/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/6...
    - throwaway_5753 3y ago
      Looks pretty generically neutral to me. What do you find objectionable here? Edit: I guess the comments are loading for me in goog translate. Is that what I should be looking at?
      - 3y ago
fsckboy 3y ago
> Here in Russia we have ... Habr just a practical question, Russian doesn't have a letter H (or rather, they unwisely decided to make it sound like N :) with the result that Hitler is called Gitler. Is Habr called Gabr? or more like Khabr with the X letter?
- oddx 3y ago
  Russian has this letter - english N -> russian Н - english H -> russian Х - english X -> russian doesn't have 1 letter equivalent, usually КС or ИКС used
- kgeist 3y ago
  It's an old rule from before the 20th century which is not really active anymore. While it's still true for old names due to convention (Harry, etc.), new foreign words with h- in it are now often rendered with kh- (letter Х). Originally, h- was rendered as g- because at one point, the educated pronunciation of "g" was influenced by Kiev's accent (as it was the capital of Rus) which always spells g- as h-. So the closest representation of h- was "the educated G". However, people outside of Ukraine were later misreading g- in such names as "hard G" because they weren't aware of the original pronunciation, hence H => G for old words.

by kgeist 3y ago

8n4vidtmkvmk 3y ago

This sounds like the exact same argument as long vs short form video.

anticodon 3y ago

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user432678 3y ago
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- tux3 3y ago
  Bad. Do not take the bait. You don't keep you shirt clean by joining the mudfight.
YeahThisIsMe 3y ago
Well, there's a very good reason not to want content praising Russia, but I think HN avoids such topics entirely.
juped 3y ago
"copy writers" is the term you're looking for, although it's a broad and neutral term that encompasses perfectly reasonable things as well as SEO spam

actualwitch 3y ago

Habr has been utter garbage, for a long time. For people who are interested in it, I highly recommend to switch to russian content in the top right button and use google translate to see what are some of the opinions average user there exhibits. Forming that kind of obnoxious audience was a long process, first "woke" people were massively downvoted and banned, then people who thought women deserve same rights as men, then anyone who criticized government. At some point into that everyone who previously wrote any interesting piece of content just... left. The current state of the platform is what happens when you go the "no politics please" route.

kgeist 3y ago
>"woke" people were massively downvoted and banned, then people who thought women deserve same rights as men, then anyone who criticized government Interesting, the poster below has the opposite view: >Owners and moderators of Habr despise Russia >they always optimized the karma system to stimulate the authors not for posting original interesting content but to stimulate those who hate Russia and downvote those who love their country My take would be that Habr is OK with the both views and people only notice the bans/downvotes when posts which align with their political views are banned/downvoted.
- actualwitch 3y ago
  I mean, to know who is right the only way is to go back and look for yourself, correct? https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/653685/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/habr/articles/6...
  - throwaway_5753 3y ago
    Looks pretty generically neutral to me. What do you find objectionable here? Edit: I guess the comments are loading for me in goog translate. Is that what I should be looking at?
    - 3y ago

fsckboy 3y ago

> Here in Russia we have ... Habr just a practical question, Russian doesn't have a letter H (or rather, they unwisely decided to make it sound like N :) with the result that Hitler is called Gitler. Is Habr called Gabr? or more like Khabr with the X letter?

oddx 3y ago
Russian has this letter - english N -> russian Н - english H -> russian Х - english X -> russian doesn't have 1 letter equivalent, usually КС or ИКС used
kgeist 3y ago
It's an old rule from before the 20th century which is not really active anymore. While it's still true for old names due to convention (Harry, etc.), new foreign words with h- in it are now often rendered with kh- (letter Х). Originally, h- was rendered as g- because at one point, the educated pronunciation of "g" was influenced by Kiev's accent (as it was the capital of Rus) which always spells g- as h-. So the closest representation of h- was "the educated G". However, people outside of Ukraine were later misreading g- in such names as "hard G" because they weren't aware of the original pronunciation, hence H => G for old words.