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It's created a reverse eternal September. The masses stay confined to one place. Other places can flourish with the old school smaller community kind of feel a

It's created a reverse eternal September. The masses stay confined to one place. Other places can flourish with the old school smaller community kind of feel and quality. Let twitter live in its current state if it means other places won't be taken over by influencers and other bullshit.

hexage1814 3y ago
Will the other places resist to VC money or other shenanigans though? That's the question...
- jdiff 3y ago
  There's too many other places. VC can't find every tiny community out there, or even any noteworthy portion of them. Places small enough to still have a coherent sense of community are beneath the notice of VC.
nomilk 3y ago
This is nice in theory. I haven't used any twitter alternatives but others seem to report that their content is more or less the same as twitter's.
- add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
  We're all sharing the same links, articles, jokes, memes, ideas, cat pictures. What differentiates a place is its sense of community, not its content. It's easy to forget that because Twitter long ago stopped being a community.
  - nomilk 3y ago
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    - tga_d 3y ago
      >The Elon era seems to emphasise truth over sensitivities I've never heard anyone claim that misinformation went down with the acquisition--Musk infamously gutted that department, and I've seen plenty of claims at least from journalists and the EU that the problem is now worse. Anecdotally, I left Twitter not for ideological reasons, but because my timeline become filled with algorithmic noise from what were clearly bots I wasn't following. Do you have evidence to back up that claim? >some suspected (but couldn't prove) being shadow banned for having contrarian viewpoints. I would think we would have seen actual indication of that by now if that were true; given all the "Twitter files" and whatnot that turned out to be a nothingburger, if there was a there there, employees were certainly motivated to air it after the acquisition, if not before. In any case, it's certainly indisputable that Musk has been more than willing to artificially inflate accounts he wants to promote (the latest I know of being the Mr. Beast debacle), which, outside of expressly labelled advertising, I don't remember being a thing before, though again, I'm open to the possibility of being wrong about that.
      - Dalewyn 3y ago
        >I've never heard anyone claim that misinformation went down with the acquisition Twitter Japan's recommendations feed was inundated with political bullshit nobody cared about. Musk came in, fired everyone at Twitter Japan, and the recommendations feed changed to anime, manga, visual novels, games, music, and other such pop cultural subjects that everyone cares about. Japanese Xers love Musk for cleaning house. The change was obvious to all, and personally I finally could justify making an account to better manage the handful of accounts I always kept tabs on (news postings from games I play, new art from illustrators I like, etc.).
      - lobocinza 3y ago
        Community notes are great and an important tool to fact check disinformation from politicians and VIPs to which traditional fact checkers often turn a blind eye. I say this from Brazil so your YMMV. While I'm not familiar with the Mr. Beast debacle on Twitter he and his content are extremely popular so it's natural for his content to be recommended. What wasn't "natural" was Twitter recommendations prior. Though there are many other reasons for not using Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, etc.
- rakoo 3y ago
  Speaking for the fediverse only, the experience is what you make of it. Stay on the largest, averagest instance and your experience will be bland; get on an instance with people who share your values, an instance that connects with other instances OK with you, follow accounts posting content you want to see and the experience will be much better.
- 1shooner 3y ago
  Mastodon reminds me of 2007 Twitter, and it would be great if it stayed that way.

hexage1814 3y ago

Will the other places resist to VC money or other shenanigans though? That's the question...

jdiff 3y ago
There's too many other places. VC can't find every tiny community out there, or even any noteworthy portion of them. Places small enough to still have a coherent sense of community are beneath the notice of VC.

nomilk 3y ago

This is nice in theory. I haven't used any twitter alternatives but others seem to report that their content is more or less the same as twitter's.

add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
We're all sharing the same links, articles, jokes, memes, ideas, cat pictures. What differentiates a place is its sense of community, not its content. It's easy to forget that because Twitter long ago stopped being a community.
- nomilk 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - tga_d 3y ago
    >The Elon era seems to emphasise truth over sensitivities I've never heard anyone claim that misinformation went down with the acquisition--Musk infamously gutted that department, and I've seen plenty of claims at least from journalists and the EU that the problem is now worse. Anecdotally, I left Twitter not for ideological reasons, but because my timeline become filled with algorithmic noise from what were clearly bots I wasn't following. Do you have evidence to back up that claim? >some suspected (but couldn't prove) being shadow banned for having contrarian viewpoints. I would think we would have seen actual indication of that by now if that were true; given all the "Twitter files" and whatnot that turned out to be a nothingburger, if there was a there there, employees were certainly motivated to air it after the acquisition, if not before. In any case, it's certainly indisputable that Musk has been more than willing to artificially inflate accounts he wants to promote (the latest I know of being the Mr. Beast debacle), which, outside of expressly labelled advertising, I don't remember being a thing before, though again, I'm open to the possibility of being wrong about that.
    - Dalewyn 3y ago
      >I've never heard anyone claim that misinformation went down with the acquisition Twitter Japan's recommendations feed was inundated with political bullshit nobody cared about. Musk came in, fired everyone at Twitter Japan, and the recommendations feed changed to anime, manga, visual novels, games, music, and other such pop cultural subjects that everyone cares about. Japanese Xers love Musk for cleaning house. The change was obvious to all, and personally I finally could justify making an account to better manage the handful of accounts I always kept tabs on (news postings from games I play, new art from illustrators I like, etc.).
    - lobocinza 3y ago
      Community notes are great and an important tool to fact check disinformation from politicians and VIPs to which traditional fact checkers often turn a blind eye. I say this from Brazil so your YMMV. While I'm not familiar with the Mr. Beast debacle on Twitter he and his content are extremely popular so it's natural for his content to be recommended. What wasn't "natural" was Twitter recommendations prior. Though there are many other reasons for not using Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, etc.
rakoo 3y ago
Speaking for the fediverse only, the experience is what you make of it. Stay on the largest, averagest instance and your experience will be bland; get on an instance with people who share your values, an instance that connects with other instances OK with you, follow accounts posting content you want to see and the experience will be much better.
1shooner 3y ago
Mastodon reminds me of 2007 Twitter, and it would be great if it stayed that way.