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How can this reasonably be stopped? The software is out there, and it's not like you can crack down on all the porn that's passed around and posted on the inter

How can this reasonably be stopped? The software is out there, and it's not like you can crack down on all the porn that's passed around and posted on the internet. You certainly can't stop private use.

Art9681 3y ago
I've been thinking about this and there will likely be economic pressure to put filters as close to bare metal as possible. This means companies producing the hardware that is capable of generating the images will likely have special chips dedicated to filtering illegal content from even being generated. It will only take a trusted company with the proven technology to license it out and for governments to mandate it in the future. It won't completely stop it, but it may largely be successful in eradicating 99% of it from the public internet. This will open up all sorts of debates about speech, etc. But that's another topic of discussion for me.
- blizzard_dev_17 3y ago
  At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
foogazi 3y ago
Just like defamation can be punished, you can target the sharing of explicit pictures intending to cause harm or shame If you undress someone in your head that’s private but you don’t have the right paint, photograph or generate and share it in public
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  Wait. Let’s say you are an artist who can paint by hand, and you paint a nude of someone using your imagination, is that actually illegal? Assuming a western jurisdiction, I assume there might be a lot of variation here.
  - foogazi 3y ago
    people legitimately practice painting nudes from images or models all the time The problem comes with dissemination and intent. Paint a nude and share it on your art website, ok - post it on the school’s chat group and send it to the models friends and family after you breakup ? Not ok
    - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      Ethically or legally? I guess I get that it might not be right, and probably against a lot of TOSes, but I don't see how criminal or even civil law would come into play here.
      - HarryHirsch 3y ago
        Many legal systems know about personality rights. They may be bad for business but are generally a good idea.
    - serf 3y ago
      >Paint a nude and share it on your art website, ok - post it on the school’s chat group and send it to the models friends and family after you breakup ? Not ok I'm not familiar with that social precedent being set. Plenty of nude paints/statues/etc were made posthumously, and tons of them are now permanent monuments in public museums. Few gave permission, but we as a society seem to think that's okay given our widespread dissemination of the art. also the motivation matters : these works weren't made for reasons of malice, generally speaking.
wmf 3y ago
Going scorched earth about this stuff for a few years would be a serious deterrent.
Shawnj2 3y ago
You can’t stop public use but you can make it so that any account posting AI porn of someone without their consent gets auto reported to the police or at least automatically filtered out. Also I think it’s a recency thing, in a few years no one will care if someone makes AI porn of you other than to get mad at the person who made it if it was done without consent.

Art9681 3y ago

I've been thinking about this and there will likely be economic pressure to put filters as close to bare metal as possible. This means companies producing the hardware that is capable of generating the images will likely have special chips dedicated to filtering illegal content from even being generated. It will only take a trusted company with the proven technology to license it out and for governments to mandate it in the future. It won't completely stop it, but it may largely be successful in eradicating 99% of it from the public internet. This will open up all sorts of debates about speech, etc. But that's another topic of discussion for me.

blizzard_dev_17 3y ago
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

foogazi 3y ago

Just like defamation can be punished, you can target the sharing of explicit pictures intending to cause harm or shame If you undress someone in your head that’s private but you don’t have the right paint, photograph or generate and share it in public

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
Wait. Let’s say you are an artist who can paint by hand, and you paint a nude of someone using your imagination, is that actually illegal? Assuming a western jurisdiction, I assume there might be a lot of variation here.
- foogazi 3y ago
  people legitimately practice painting nudes from images or models all the time The problem comes with dissemination and intent. Paint a nude and share it on your art website, ok - post it on the school’s chat group and send it to the models friends and family after you breakup ? Not ok
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    Ethically or legally? I guess I get that it might not be right, and probably against a lot of TOSes, but I don't see how criminal or even civil law would come into play here.
    - HarryHirsch 3y ago
      Many legal systems know about personality rights. They may be bad for business but are generally a good idea.
  - serf 3y ago
    >Paint a nude and share it on your art website, ok - post it on the school’s chat group and send it to the models friends and family after you breakup ? Not ok I'm not familiar with that social precedent being set. Plenty of nude paints/statues/etc were made posthumously, and tons of them are now permanent monuments in public museums. Few gave permission, but we as a society seem to think that's okay given our widespread dissemination of the art. also the motivation matters : these works weren't made for reasons of malice, generally speaking.

wmf 3y ago

Going scorched earth about this stuff for a few years would be a serious deterrent.

Shawnj2 3y ago

You can’t stop public use but you can make it so that any account posting AI porn of someone without their consent gets auto reported to the police or at least automatically filtered out. Also I think it’s a recency thing, in a few years no one will care if someone makes AI porn of you other than to get mad at the person who made it if it was done without consent.