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Act local, think global: https://effectiveactivist.com/ https://effectiveactivist.com/

vaylian 3y ago
Also: BBC podcast series "How they made us doubt everything": https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/m000l7q1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/m000l7q1 (10 episodes plus intro) The fossil fuel industry is still heavily invested in preventing real climate action. It is a very hard opponent to overcome.
- InSteady 3y ago
  You can typically see their handiwork in every single internet discussion of related topics, including HN threads that get enough traction.
- ZunarJ5 3y ago
  Thank you. Good link. I posted something similar below and, here's more food for thought: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/04/more-than-1000-climate-scientists-urge-public-to-become-activists https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/04/more-tha... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-022-01461-y https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-022-01461-y
jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y ago
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- ZunarJ5 3y ago
  I don't know and frankly, it does not matter. In my day job, I trace ecological changes over time in landscapes by reading a very localised sediment core. Over time, this knowledge builds, piece by piece, to build a complex tapestry of what was. It's like building a functional database that then fuels positive action. If you want to check out the data see: https://apps.neotomadb.org/explorer/ https://apps.neotomadb.org/explorer/ You can only do what you can and when you can, so do it well and realise that the little things do add up. People are busy, and realistically, no one really has the power to stop the giants involved in this rolling disaster as an individual. Society (with a capital S, aka encompassing the social, political, and economic spheres) is a machine we must slow down, do maintenance on and redeploy. Because we are fighting the velocity of the thing, having many people act as another set of "breaks" on the direction trends are headed does matter. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/07/climate-crisis-miracle-technology-wind-water-solar https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/07/climat... We can do a lot, and there is a lot of money involved to tell us differently.
  - jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y ago
    >the little things do add up This is the first thing that anyone who has actually studied historical societal change would have to disagree with. In fact, history almost completely shows that organizing one another and acting strategically in unison is the only hope, because there is effectively zero evidence of the "little things" just happening to add up. In conclusion, you are absolutely full of it. You either don't know you're wrong because you're lying about having done the research, or you did the research and you are intentionally lying about the results.
    - ZunarJ5 3y ago
      This guide I linked is literally how to do that if and how you are able to, especially when you do not know where to start. Those movements start small, with a few people organising and snowballing. This is a guide on starting that process, not finishing. We need to show people how to begin if we want mass action, and the groundwork for strong movements is extremely important as it is inherently a bottom-up approach to societal change.
      - jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y ago
        Historically mere "movements" don't accomplish anything. You need actual strategy. Not just attention wrangling. The fact that you haven't shared a strategy shows me you're ineffective at anything except wasting peoples' time.
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Also: BBC podcast series "How they made us doubt everything": https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/m000l7q1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/m000l7q1 (10 episodes plus intro) The fossil fuel industry is still heavily invested in preventing real climate action. It is a very hard opponent to overcome.

InSteady 3y ago
You can typically see their handiwork in every single internet discussion of related topics, including HN threads that get enough traction.
ZunarJ5 3y ago
Thank you. Good link. I posted something similar below and, here's more food for thought: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/04/more-than-1000-climate-scientists-urge-public-to-become-activists https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/04/more-tha... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-022-01461-y https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-022-01461-y

jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y ago

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ZunarJ5 3y ago
I don't know and frankly, it does not matter. In my day job, I trace ecological changes over time in landscapes by reading a very localised sediment core. Over time, this knowledge builds, piece by piece, to build a complex tapestry of what was. It's like building a functional database that then fuels positive action. If you want to check out the data see: https://apps.neotomadb.org/explorer/ https://apps.neotomadb.org/explorer/ You can only do what you can and when you can, so do it well and realise that the little things do add up. People are busy, and realistically, no one really has the power to stop the giants involved in this rolling disaster as an individual. Society (with a capital S, aka encompassing the social, political, and economic spheres) is a machine we must slow down, do maintenance on and redeploy. Because we are fighting the velocity of the thing, having many people act as another set of "breaks" on the direction trends are headed does matter. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/07/climate-crisis-miracle-technology-wind-water-solar https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/07/climat... We can do a lot, and there is a lot of money involved to tell us differently.
- jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y ago
  >the little things do add up This is the first thing that anyone who has actually studied historical societal change would have to disagree with. In fact, history almost completely shows that organizing one another and acting strategically in unison is the only hope, because there is effectively zero evidence of the "little things" just happening to add up. In conclusion, you are absolutely full of it. You either don't know you're wrong because you're lying about having done the research, or you did the research and you are intentionally lying about the results.
  - ZunarJ5 3y ago
    This guide I linked is literally how to do that if and how you are able to, especially when you do not know where to start. Those movements start small, with a few people organising and snowballing. This is a guide on starting that process, not finishing. We need to show people how to begin if we want mass action, and the groundwork for strong movements is extremely important as it is inherently a bottom-up approach to societal change.
    - jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y ago
      Historically mere "movements" don't accomplish anything. You need actual strategy. Not just attention wrangling. The fact that you haven't shared a strategy shows me you're ineffective at anything except wasting peoples' time.

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