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Microsoft Teams went down around the world for over eight hours
- methou 3y agoWe had to use Teams with our partners in China(long story), and the macOS app doesn’t even support FIDO keys. Had to ask IT for an exception to use TOTPs on my account.
- DueDilligence 3y ago[dead]
- lostlogin 3y agoIt’s such a depressing product that has become an industry standard. Shame on all of us.
- ghosty141 3y agoIts the most awful „chat“ program I‘ve ever used. Especially the horrible linux support is a shame.
- synergy20 3y agofor me the browser version worked fine on all os, nothing fancy,but get the job done
- dijit 3y agoExcept it doesn't work on Firefox... or Safari. (FD: it didn't work on either last I checked, which was 4 months ago because I migrated my org off Teams 4 months ago;; I'm not willing to check if thats changed, but not having support for years is equally unacceptable, I don't care if they've improved in your eyes now--- TL;DR: inb4 "IT WORKS NOW")
- ladyanita22 3y agoAt least the Linux community is steeping up to do the work Microsoft doesn't want to. https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux
- bigpeopleareold 3y agoI use it and it's nice, but as long as it points to web teams, it will inherit all the instability issues I have had with Teams, just without anyway to easily back out of it, unlike a regular browser.
- kyawzazaw 3y agoI would think linux support is nowhere on their list of priorities.
- k4rli 3y agoThere is no Linux support. The desktop app got discontinued at least a year ago.
- kenjackson 3y agoWhat’s the problem with it? It seems like one of the better faster improving products I use on a daily basis.
- blibble 3y agothere's that hilarious video where they boast the complete rewrite only takes 9 seconds to open and only 1.2 seconds to switch chats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7nnXej2K4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7nnXej2K4 what is it even doing? both should be instant mIRC opened instantly on a 1995 PC
- probably_satan 3y agoLol remember when Microsoft tried to re-invent IRC in the 90s? How long has Microsoft been failing at IRC now (which is basically what web chat is) Microsoft excels only at stealing existing tech, doing a horrible job at it, rebranding it as their own and then engaging in predatory litigation to try to steal the rights to it. I mean they aren't the only ones who do that, but at least make it better in some way
- ratg13 3y agoDisagree. ComicChat was a great product, and a great way to introduce non-tech people to IRC.
- lostlogin 3y ago> there's that hilarious video It’s was just painful, and then I saw that the account holder is Microsoft. Is this correct? That’s like a messed up version of Apple’s ‘it’s 75% faster’ graphs but with more of your time wasted watching a video showing how bad they were and and still are.
- lostlogin 3y agoTry a call with several participants where one has a low speed connection. Try open a Word doc. The layout is screwed, or is it? Online Word, the app and Teams all show it differently. Try drag and drop a document onto it on a Mac - that’s broken (may have been fixed in last update). Try have the app respond in less than 3 seconds after a click, on a gigabit connection. Try download a large folder from Teams. Good luck - it will crap out. Every day is another paper cut. I don’t have a better platform to go to but I do wonder if a network share and any other chat app would replace Teams, and we are looking into that.
- __turbobrew__ 3y agoLast time I checked google meet was the only meeting platform where I could join a meeting without creating an account and also it works natively in Firefox on linux. Everything else either requires installing an app, using a browser other than firefox, or making an account.
- lostlogin 3y agoI agree, Google Meet works well with no account. It has a weird habit of grabbing my phone microphone when I join from my laptop, but other than that, it’s good.
- floydnoel 3y agoBrave's video chat service works for me in that situation, but i suppose you’re probably referring to just the largest players.
- dijit 3y agojitsi is also excellent, and its FOSS too.
- yobid20 3y agoExcept that it is completely unreliable, where there's always 1 or 2 users who it doesn't work for and drops steams forcing all to switch to something else, and also codebase is a total mess of tightly coupled spaghetti code hacks. Dont recommend anyone waste their time on trying to use it.
- jjeaff 3y agoZoom also does not require an account nor does it require installing their software, although they try to hide that feature.
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- throwup238 3y ago(And no one noticed for the first few hours)
- paleotrope 3y agoIt wasn't completely out. We were using it all day yesterday for video and.phone conferences without issue. Chats were slow and image loading was hit or miss.
- analog31 3y agoIt's funny you say that, because it's true. I didn't notice. A contractor called and we tried setting up a Teams meeting so he could show me some stuff, and it just didn't work. So we quickly switched over to another tool that he uses for showing his screen, and I put my phone in "speaker" mode. It never occurred to either of us that Teams had actually gone down. Each of us assumed it was our IT.
- lostlogin 3y ago> Each of us assumed it was our IT It sort of was, they chose Teams. I say this as someone who uses Teams and could probably get us moving away from it but the inertia is real.
- silisili 3y agoWe were among the companies that switched from Slack to Teams. Slack was absolutely overflowing with work activity, side chats, a few random channels. Hundreds if not thousands a day. Everyone hates Teams so much they only seem to use it as absolute last resort. I see about 10 total messages a day, if that. So yeah, it took us a long time to realize it was even down.
- lostlogin 3y agoHas the reduced chatter helped, or hindered work?
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- dijit 3y agoNothing will happen, so why should Microsoft care? They already have one of the worst usability experiences across conventionally used instant messenger/VOIP software. This is proof that its very easy for one monopoly to create another.
- UseStrict 3y agoTeams is probably the worst communications app I've ever been forced to use. Extremely slow, random crashes, almost impossible to organize chats in a useful way, and outages as the cherry on top. I would have thought that Microsoft would put more TLC into a core part of their enterprise offering.
- blibble 3y ago> I would have thought that Microsoft would put more TLC into a core part of their enterprise offering. which of their other pieces of software are any better?
- bbkane 3y agoPowerPoint is incredible! It lays out my slides much better than I can, and finds good images too!
- pxeboot 3y agoA lot of their enterprise offerings are still pretty good. SQL Server, AD, Intune. But Teams is really terrible. And the move to "New Teams" was handled very poorly too. I had hoped it would improve things, but it is basically the same with slightly less RAM usage.
- HideousKojima 3y ago>SQL Server If you mean the DB server itself, sure. But for actually managing it, they've effectively killed further development of SSMS in favor of Azure Data Studio. And while Azure Data Studio is relatively fast and snappy, it's missing a lot of SSMS functionality. Meanwhile they refuse to implement a dark mode in SSMS despite it being the most requested feature for several years running now.
- antisthenes 3y agoExcel was and is still the gold standard for everything that "doesn't quite require a database" and can be made by a regular corporate user in 5 minutes or less. It did crappify somewhat in recent years, but still eons and mountains ahead of anything the competition put out.
- rgrieselhuber 3y agoWhenever I think of MS Teams, I'm reminded of Paul Virilio's research on dromology ("speed as a weapon") and how the inhibition of speed (productivity in this case) can be a weapon too, whether intended as such or not.
- banjo_milkman 3y agoThis is an interesting conjecture. It could be a cunning Microsoft competitive strategy. They convince cost-sensitive IT infrastructure groups in other businesses to use Teams by offering it for free, reducing company productivity massively, hobbling product development. Meanwhile, Microsoft adopt some other pay messaging/video service internally, accelerate product development 10x, become insanely competitive in a whole host of new markets rapidly.
- jsnell 3y agoDupe with no new information: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39146385 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39146385 (Though I'm betting there's a followup in a week or two where they admit that it was once again a DDoS attack they were unable to mitigate.)
- Halan 3y agoMy company is thinking of transitioning from Zoom to Teams in 2025. Looks like we will have meeting free days
- rokkitmensch 3y agoApple's App Store Connect was also down on Friday and that was much more personally obnoxious. At least with Teams down I got a free afternoon of maker time!
- Lich 3y agoWas ok until they locked screen share recording behind office 365 settings. Haven’t been able to get it to work despite all the settings being correct.
- Topfi 3y agoI'd love to see whether and by how much this event correlated with a significant increase in worker productivity.
- navbaker 3y agoOur work uses Zoom, but for one specific project I have to use Teams to talk with a government sponsor. Every single meeting without fail I get disconnected at exactly the 18 minute mark past start.
- MattPalmer1086 3y agoAh, Teams. Wouldn't let me join meetings when I wasnt in the office, but worked when I was in the office. Great remote collaboration tool! I finally figured out how to fix it a few days ago (weird interaction with the Citrix client). Then it all stopped working again. I just put it down to being an incredibly flaky app. Didn't occur to me that it had actually gone down.
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- bastard_op 3y agoMicrosoft Teams is long been terrible and gets worse every year. Every customer I work with that uses Teams, I loath working with or for. It's been terrible since it was Office Communicator, then Lync, Skype for Business, and now Teams as they rebrand every few years trying to remove the old stink. They had a Linux client for a while, but it never worked right, and still can't figure out which audio device to use, or allow you to save a setting of which one to prefer. Every call, when they work, is a scramble to figure out where your audio is routing if you happen to have multiple sound cards. Now they've even done away with the Linux client and tell you to just use the web, which guess what - has even more dysfunction, and doesn't work most of the time either. This doesn't even include the 95% of complaints that come from native Windows users, let alone the other 3rd rate citizen, Apple Mac's. The only reason people use teams is Microsoft gives it away as the "first hit" with your enterprise licenses, and what greedy corporation doesn't enjoy free. They could pay for a good solution like Slack, but does relic management use web chat to see any value? If they're old, probably not, so free is better than not. Now the really scary thing is enterprises are now like "we can get rid of our phones and use Teams!", when Teams _still_doesn't_work_for_everyone_. I'm waiting for the day when someone dies because they couldn't find their phone or log into their PC to start a teams call for 911, or figure out audio routing. I've actually quit jobs and customers because OCS/Lync/Teams has made my life hell trying to work or even consult for organizations. I can't help them if they can't even help themselves to not do stupid things like use the worst common denominator of enterprise communications.
- Ajay-p 3y agoHow could you tell? Teams is awful and fails to work almost every time.
- rvba 3y agoSatya's genius strikes again
- kierank 3y agoThis isn't a surprise from an organisation that opened a ticket on the FFmpeg tracker asking volunteers for free "high priority" support: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10341#comment:4 https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10341#comment:4
- black_13 3y ago[dead]