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>people want to live in cities no, a ton of jobs outside the cities got outsourced or automated, leaving people with no choice. The number of people who left c

>people want to live in cities no, a ton of jobs outside the cities got outsourced or automated, leaving people with no choice. The number of people who left cities when remote work gave them the chance should make that obvious

bestekov 3y ago
> The number of people who left cities when remote work gave them the chance should make that obvious The number of people who left cities is a remarkably small part of the US population and many of them just left high-cost cities for other lower-cost cities. The steady increase in % of the US population who live in cities (83% in 2023 up from 70% in 2022) [https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/urban-population https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/urba...] suggests that yes, Americans do in fact want to live in cities.
- drewcoo 3y ago
  https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/urban-rural-populations.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/urban-ru... > Despite the increase in the urban population, urban areas, defined as densely developed residential, commercial, and other nonresidential areas, now account for 80.0% of the U.S. population, down from 80.7% in 2010.
  - enterprise_cog 3y ago
    Not sure why you left this part out. > This small decline was largely the result of changes to the criteria for defining urban areas implemented by the Census Bureau, including raising the minimum population threshold for qualification from 2,500 to 5,000.
Reubend 3y ago
But even if someone wants to move for economic opportunity, they still want to move. Would people prefer rural areas if those areas had equal amounts of jobs? Maybe, maybe not. But since they don't, I think it's totally fair to say that the proportion of people who "want" to live in cities is increasing.
orwin 3y ago
"Left cities" to go in smaller cities. Look, i'm a country boy. I've learned how to kill and remove feathers from a chicken when i was 8 or 9. I know more about orchard than fields, but still i could drive old machines by 11 (then life happened). I know how to build a fence and/or a stone wall. We left for a "big" city (10k people). Life was so much better there, even when we had almost no money and had to eat boiled potatoes for months. I will never live in the countryside again, and i'm an introvert. My mother went back ~10 years ago, and already want to go back live in a small city, because driving at least half an hour to do anything, everyday, is really, really hard when you aren't retired yet (and especially in winter, however warm it is). [edit] I've also lived in suburbia for 4 years, it's barely better than the countryside, so if your choice is between the two, chose countryside.

bestekov 3y ago

> The number of people who left cities when remote work gave them the chance should make that obvious The number of people who left cities is a remarkably small part of the US population and many of them just left high-cost cities for other lower-cost cities. The steady increase in % of the US population who live in cities (83% in 2023 up from 70% in 2022) [https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/urban-population https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/urba...] suggests that yes, Americans do in fact want to live in cities.

drewcoo 3y ago
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/urban-rural-populations.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/urban-ru... > Despite the increase in the urban population, urban areas, defined as densely developed residential, commercial, and other nonresidential areas, now account for 80.0% of the U.S. population, down from 80.7% in 2010.
- enterprise_cog 3y ago
  Not sure why you left this part out. > This small decline was largely the result of changes to the criteria for defining urban areas implemented by the Census Bureau, including raising the minimum population threshold for qualification from 2,500 to 5,000.

Reubend 3y ago

But even if someone wants to move for economic opportunity, they still want to move. Would people prefer rural areas if those areas had equal amounts of jobs? Maybe, maybe not. But since they don't, I think it's totally fair to say that the proportion of people who "want" to live in cities is increasing.

orwin 3y ago

"Left cities" to go in smaller cities. Look, i'm a country boy. I've learned how to kill and remove feathers from a chicken when i was 8 or 9. I know more about orchard than fields, but still i could drive old machines by 11 (then life happened). I know how to build a fence and/or a stone wall. We left for a "big" city (10k people). Life was so much better there, even when we had almost no money and had to eat boiled potatoes for months. I will never live in the countryside again, and i'm an introvert. My mother went back ~10 years ago, and already want to go back live in a small city, because driving at least half an hour to do anything, everyday, is really, really hard when you aren't retired yet (and especially in winter, however warm it is). [edit] I've also lived in suburbia for 4 years, it's barely better than the countryside, so if your choice is between the two, chose countryside.