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2013 Airbus A380 for sale in Rolling Hills Estates, California
- sneed_chucker 3y agoSure it might seem cheap, but it's the upkeep that really gets you.
- lupusreal 3y agoA jet airplane is a hole in the sky that you shovel money into.
- wincy 3y agoBut how else am I supposed to get to my house in Jackson Hole?
- rzzzt 3y agoI'd like to convert the plane itself into a house, not fly with it to a house.
- jacquesm 3y agoYour proposed house site is limited to within a few hundred meters of an international airport.
- rzzzt 3y agoI'll just roll it down the dirt road behind the backyards.
- ianburrell 3y agoIt would almost be better to have cargo version of the A380. Then the nose could open up and you pull out your house and your car.
- squokko 3y agoThese days? "Work from home" there and have your lackeys actually run your business.
- Mordisquitos 3y agoThe are two days which are the happiest in the life of the owner of a wide-body quadjet double-decker commercial jetliner. First is the day he sells his wide-body quadjet double-decker commercial jetliner. Second is the following day, when he wakes up and remembers with relief that he did indeed sell the damn thing.
- Grazester 3y agoAh, the sky equivalent of a yacht.
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- htrp 3y agoEngine Maintenance Program None Engine 1 Notes First Limiter: 800 Cycles Engine 2 Notes First Limiter: 3100 Cycles Engine 3 Notes First Limiter: 3700 Cycles Engine 4 Notes First Limiter: 3700 Cycles ----------------------------------------- This sounds like it could be expensive?
- notahacker 3y agoFull overhauls on the set of engines would cost more than the aircraft.... (in fairness, the engines have plenty of cycles left but nobody wants A380s except for spares any more...)
- stephen_g 3y agoWell Emirates does, but they really want new A380s. Especially if Airbus had done a NEO version that was more efficient (ideally with a new wing). But they’re not going to do that for just one (albeit large) customer.
- _fat_santa 3y agoMy guess here is the reason it's so cheap is: 1. Airframe is near the end of it's lifespan. 2. Engines are near the end of their lifespan. 3. No one wants to buy an A380 so they are trying to get the price low enough to move it. I know nothing about how to evaluate aircraft listings so it would be interesting is someone here with more knowledge could shed some light on this.
- theYipster 3y agoAn airframe and its engines typically have a rated life of 20,000 cycles. This plane has about 3,500. With proper maintenance however, airframes and some of their components can be used indefinitely. Engines will need to be rebuilt over time and engine parts replaced with new ones. I think the price is low because the market for the plane is small, as is used serviceable material demand. (That’s when you strip a plane and sell its parts.)
- Alupis 3y agoAdditionally, the A380 finds itself in a weird spot currently. Passenger airlines are moving away from behemoth airframes to more modern, efficient widebodies such as 787, 777, A330, A350. Freight carriers don't enjoy the restrictions that come with the A380, conversions to freight-only are expensive, and the extra load capacity isn't as useful as it might seem for standard routes. The A380 finds itself in a position where the available market is very small and getting smaller by the day.
- cstross 3y agoModern airliners are designed for a 30 year service life, this one is barely at ten years old, so it won't be airframe at end of lifespan. One of the engines has only 800 cycles; the others are around the 3000 mark (so roughly 300 flights/year, which sounds about right for an A380: they service long-haul routes). It might be a case of (3), with the added problem of there being a glut on the market due to the availability of newer, less maintenance-intensive wide-body twinjets with >400 seats these days (Boeing 777X, Airbus 350)?
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- barbazoo 3y ago> Payments as low as USD $159,750.00 / monthly*
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- kotaKat 3y agoIt looks like based on how haphazardly they tried to paint over the logos that it's formerly D-AIMK of Lufthansa. https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/32822-lufthansa-a380-brings-back-daimk https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/32822-lufthansa-a380-brin... Based on this landing 3 days ago from LAX, and based on the aircraft location being "Rolling Hills Estates, California", I suspect this was the ferry flight in or around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6jfARHff8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6jfARHff8A
- mrpippy 3y agoI don't think it’s that, D-AIMK is in the air right now. Also, they stupidly list the aircraft location as Rolling Hills Estates because the broker is based there. LAX is the only nearby airport that could handle an A380, but it’s a very poor place to store an A380 for sale.
- zoky 3y agoYeah, I laughed when I saw the location as Rolling Hills Estates; while quite a few RHE residents could probably afford this airplane, there’s not a chance in hell that you’d actually be able to get it anywhere near there. The nearest airport would be Torrance, but while you might be able to land an A380 there, I highly doubt you’d ever be able to get it off the ground again if you did so.
- V-eHGsd_ 3y ago> but while you might be able to land an A380 there, as my old flight instructor used to say, "you can land a plane anywhere, once"
- ushakov 3y agoI have just flown one of those from Munich to Bangkok (Lufthansa). The pilots were so nice and even let me take a pic inside the cabin after we landed
- woobar 3y agoI don't think they painted it over. Looks like it is airbrushed in photopshop. Check out the top of the tail or the second door.
- vivzkestrel 3y agostupid question, lets say someone does buy this for 25 million, how much expenditure per month are we looking at? can someone economic or aviation expert shed some light on this?
- notahacker 3y agoThe maintenance is mostly based around reaching certain numbers of flying hours, so the costs are mostly based on how much you fly it, which also includes the high costs of fuel. Having a couple of A380 rated captains to call on isn't cheap either. Since making a profit per flight on an A380 is difficult on the vast majority of routes for the vast majority of airlines, that means it's basically spare parts. Wouldn't cost anything to maintain as a garden ornament though
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago> Wouldn't cost anything to maintain as a garden ornament though Those HOA fines will add up.
- rogerbinns 3y agoIt depends on how much you operate it. They (used to) cost around $1.6m per month to lease. Airlines typically get around 14c per seat per mile in revenue, and would make a slight loss if it wasn't for their frequent flyer programs (a weird form of a bank). There is nothing more profitable than flying a full A380. There is nothing more loss making than flying a not full A380. The costs to update the interior (eg ~450 new seats, in-flight entertainment, carpets, catering) is around $30m which is the same price as a new Boeing 737 (seating ~160) in bulk orders. This aircraft is also due maintenance on most of its engines, and almost certainly a heavy maintenance (D check) where the aircraft is almost completely taken apart, inspected, and reassembled. A ballpark for this is $10-$15 million, done every ~6 years, and often combined with a cabin refresh. The original owner was looking at a ~$50+ million bill for maintenance, cabin refresh, ongoing crew training and equipment, maintenance crews and spares, paying for the larger gates at various airports etc. It wasn't worth it to them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_maintenance_checks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_maintenance_checks
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- bell-cot 3y agoFor $25M, you'd think they could provide a decent sales pitch, and a few more photos.
- michaelje 3y agoI assume the people in the market for an a380 already know what it looks like
- buildsjets 3y agoNo lowballers, no tirekickers. I know what I've got.
- brianwawok 3y agoIf this post is still up it’s still available?
- rzzzt 3y agoThis door squeaks a little bit...
- throwup238 3y agoA380 burns around 4,500 gallons of jet fuel an hour (on average-ish) so that's about $25,000/hour to operate in fuel alone. That's where they get ya! You can buy a much more reasonable 6-8 seater luxury jet for a few hundred thousand [1] because they burn $2k-3k of fuel an hour. You can even buy an old fighter jet for $340k [2]! Cheapest operating cost there is $1k per hour. [1] https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/230560833/1973-learjet-25b-jet-aircraft https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/230560833/1973-l... [2] https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/223055901/1988-aero-l-39c-albatros-turbine-military-aircraft https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/223055901/1988-a...
- mushufasa 3y ago340k for a Learjet? that seems too good to be true. what's the catch? I'm not familiar with this stuff. Looks like an early 70s model -- is that something you would need to gut to realistically use?
- throwup238 3y agoThe two engines on that jet can run about 5k hours before they have to be taken apart and overhauled which costs a f*ckload of money. The ones in the link have been running for 4,036/4,200 hours since their last overhaul so have less than 20% life on them. Whoever buys this plane will get less than a thousand hours of use before they have to spend more than the sale price of the plane to overhaul the engines. According to [1] it costs an average of $500,000 per engine [1] https://aircraftbluebook.com/Tools/ABB/ShowEngines.do?sortKey=&sortOrder=&pageIndex=4 https://aircraftbluebook.com/Tools/ABB/ShowEngines.do?sortKe...
- zitterbewegung 3y agoThis video has a good breakdown on yearly private jet costs . https://youtu.be/APRgGpwx5TA?si=KIZzCtg_0iaJG5Ah https://youtu.be/APRgGpwx5TA?si=KIZzCtg_0iaJG5Ah
- paxys 3y agoI can't imagine the rationale behind listing this publicly on the internet over spending the effort to instead market it to the 2-3 international airlines who may be interested (although that's still a long shot). Maybe they are hoping some bored billionaire will buy it to stoke their ego before realizing what a shit idea it was?
- notahacker 3y agoThey'll have marketed it to airlines and major part-out specialists already. The bored billionaire might offer them a better price, and the listing cost is negligible
- bluGill 3y agoThe bored billionaire is about the only market left (other than scrap). While this can be very profitable, there are only a few routes it is worth running this on and that just isn't enough to be worth keeping around. Thus the best market is a billionaire who realized they can put a whatever luxury on this and fly when they want - if you don't already have an airplane and staff to fly it don't think about it. if you do have the airplane and staff for it this might be a nice upgrade and you will have a good idea if you can afford it. Note that whoever buys this will be ripping out the seats (well they night leave a few - let the staff's family go with in them next time you go to Australia) to make it what they want. Hot tub, full 5 start kitchen, movie theater, or other such things that most of us couldn't think about....
- brigade 3y agoBoeing tried to sell the last private 747-8 for a decade before scrapping it (N458BJ), and that one was originally built for a billionaire, had logged almost no flight time, and was already empty and ready to have the interior customized and fitted. A380... the only attempt at making a private jet version fizzled out as being infeasible, despite Airbus's help. This one isn't getting converted to be a billionaire's plaything either.
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- gumby 3y agoFor some reason, when the 380 was announced I mused about what it would be like as a private jet (in the end decided not to order one :-)). There are quite a few people who could afford to, and it would be quite the party plane. But actually perhaps not. There aren’t actually that many airports where you could land or take off and with terminals that could deplane you (and you’d have to mix with hoi polloi in the process). No flying to Capri. And they are so huge that unless you travel with a seriously enormous entourage, it would always feel lonely and empty. And as Bezos recently discovered if you really do buy the biggest yacht the same applies. In his case, when he arrives he has to park with the cargo ships.
- outsidein 3y agoProbably formerly owned by China Southern Airlines until dec. 2011. Owned by Jet Midwest since mar. 2022 Their business seems to be used aircraft parts & maintenance/ service. https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/airbus-a380-800-n296jm-jet-midwest-group/r6v17m https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/airbus-a380-800-n296j...