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I was excited, but then I saw it was Mac only. Weird choice, most programmers will never even look at this editor.

by DiabloD3 3y ago

svennidal 3y ago
Most programmers I know prefer macOS above all other. Is it different where you’re from?
- riquito 3y ago
  There are obviously more programmers on Linux and Windows than on Mac, no matter your bubble. Since zed is Mac only, necessarily most programmers won't use it
  - adlpz 3y ago
    This is not obvious at all and in fact directly contradicts my anecdotal evidence in many "bubbles". It's likely to be the case for the "bubble" of the Zed authors.
- WCSTombs 3y ago
  Linux remains quite popular among software developers.
- Yodel0914 3y ago
  It's different for anyone working in a corporate environment, where no one cares what you prefer.
- torginus 3y ago
  Yes, I run docker for a lot of workloads, and I can't drop the $3000+ they ask for a 32GB machine, where the same upgrade is like $100 for a regular Windows laptop.
uglycoyote 3y ago
yes, the title of this post should be, "Zed, a collaborative Mac-only code editor....". I also find it kind of obnoxious that their front page says they are focused on making the world's best code editor without mentioning that it is tied to one platform. I don't think it can come close to being the best editor with such limitations.
- timeon 3y ago
  > focused on making So it is not done yet is it? One platform is apparently not the goal for them.
nalinidash 3y ago
As said by someone in another thread,linux support is on their roadmap[0]. Stay tuned for that. 0: https://zed.dev/roadmap https://zed.dev/roadmap
norir 3y ago
Sure, but if you live in the bay, you'd be forgiven for assuming that 80% of developers use macs, 17% linux and 3% windows. Developing mac first makes perfect sense to me.
flakes 3y ago
I don't think that's quite fair. The stackoverflow survey shows a large number of developers have made the move to Mac. Certainly not the majority, but a very healthy share. https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-most-popular-technologies-operating-system https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-most-popular-t... Anecdotally, Mac has become very popular at my workplace, with a growing number of developers choosing Mac for their primary device. We mostly target Linux, so regardless of workstation we're usually remoting into a Linux box or running some VM/Docker setup locally. When I can work on projects locally without a VM, the interactions on Mac feel a lot more natural compared to Windows. I don't think I would switch back to a Windows machine any time soon, although if I was offered a Linux laptop I'd be very tempted.
- DiabloD3 3y ago
  I don't really consider the SO survey useful anymore. It seems to be hyper-selected to just Silicon Valley techbros, instead of either the more general US tech industry, or the worldwide tech industry. If the Silicon Valley is just a bubble, then the two bubbles I live in (life-long FOSS/Linux guy, but also deep into the hosting/transit/non-eyeball end of the Internet), every single Mac owner I know does not run OSX, but only wanted it for the physical build itself; they either run Windows because of job reasons, or they run Linux because they like to get shit done. Everyone else I know is slowly joining #TeamFramework. Having made what seems to be the best Ryzen laptop on the market is certainly turning heads, and congrats for pulling it off.
  - flakes 3y ago
    > It seems to be hyper-selected to just Silicon Valley techbros, instead of either the more general US tech industry, or the worldwide tech industry. How do you validate this claim? The country demographic in the survey shows that USA makes up only 21% of responses. https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-key-territories-geography https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-key-territorie...
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I was excited, but then I saw it was Mac only. Weird choice, most programmers will never even look at this editor.

svennidal 3y ago

Most programmers I know prefer macOS above all other. Is it different where you’re from?

riquito 3y ago
There are obviously more programmers on Linux and Windows than on Mac, no matter your bubble. Since zed is Mac only, necessarily most programmers won't use it
- adlpz 3y ago
  This is not obvious at all and in fact directly contradicts my anecdotal evidence in many "bubbles". It's likely to be the case for the "bubble" of the Zed authors.
WCSTombs 3y ago
Linux remains quite popular among software developers.
Yodel0914 3y ago
It's different for anyone working in a corporate environment, where no one cares what you prefer.
torginus 3y ago
Yes, I run docker for a lot of workloads, and I can't drop the $3000+ they ask for a 32GB machine, where the same upgrade is like $100 for a regular Windows laptop.

uglycoyote 3y ago

yes, the title of this post should be, "Zed, a collaborative Mac-only code editor....". I also find it kind of obnoxious that their front page says they are focused on making the world's best code editor without mentioning that it is tied to one platform. I don't think it can come close to being the best editor with such limitations.

timeon 3y ago
> focused on making So it is not done yet is it? One platform is apparently not the goal for them.

nalinidash 3y ago

As said by someone in another thread,linux support is on their roadmap[0]. Stay tuned for that. 0: https://zed.dev/roadmap https://zed.dev/roadmap

norir 3y ago

Sure, but if you live in the bay, you'd be forgiven for assuming that 80% of developers use macs, 17% linux and 3% windows. Developing mac first makes perfect sense to me.

flakes 3y ago

I don't think that's quite fair. The stackoverflow survey shows a large number of developers have made the move to Mac. Certainly not the majority, but a very healthy share. https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-most-popular-technologies-operating-system https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-most-popular-t... Anecdotally, Mac has become very popular at my workplace, with a growing number of developers choosing Mac for their primary device. We mostly target Linux, so regardless of workstation we're usually remoting into a Linux box or running some VM/Docker setup locally. When I can work on projects locally without a VM, the interactions on Mac feel a lot more natural compared to Windows. I don't think I would switch back to a Windows machine any time soon, although if I was offered a Linux laptop I'd be very tempted.

DiabloD3 3y ago
I don't really consider the SO survey useful anymore. It seems to be hyper-selected to just Silicon Valley techbros, instead of either the more general US tech industry, or the worldwide tech industry. If the Silicon Valley is just a bubble, then the two bubbles I live in (life-long FOSS/Linux guy, but also deep into the hosting/transit/non-eyeball end of the Internet), every single Mac owner I know does not run OSX, but only wanted it for the physical build itself; they either run Windows because of job reasons, or they run Linux because they like to get shit done. Everyone else I know is slowly joining #TeamFramework. Having made what seems to be the best Ryzen laptop on the market is certainly turning heads, and congrats for pulling it off.
- flakes 3y ago
  > It seems to be hyper-selected to just Silicon Valley techbros, instead of either the more general US tech industry, or the worldwide tech industry. How do you validate this claim? The country demographic in the survey shows that USA makes up only 21% of responses. https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-key-territories-geography https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-key-territorie...
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