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That's great, but if I ever see a jumping spider in my house then I will not hesitate to murder it in cold blood.

by jjackson5324 3y ago

refulgentis 3y ago
They're not what you think, they're less than 1 mm lol
- jjackson5324 3y ago
  I know exactly what they are and I stand by my statement.
- eredengrin 3y ago
  Not sure what you're on about. The article itself states they're typically 1mm to 2.3cm in length, and most of them that I've ever seen are closer to the 2cm than 1mm. Probably helps that just about anything 1mm in size looks about the same from a normal viewing distance, so there's reason to believe most people would have seen more from the bigger end of the spectrum. Regardless of the size I quite like them, many are quite pretty and fascinating to watch.
gingerrr 3y ago
That's so sad. I'm pretty militantly anti-spider but jumping spiders, despite seeming like they were sent from hell to terrify us, are just little furry big-eyed arthro-bros
- sergiomattei 3y ago
  They even kill insects for us
  - ikekkdcjkfke 3y ago
    They eat the other creatures that only come out at night.. Which do you prefer?
  - MacsHeadroom 3y ago
    When I learned that they compete for territory with centipedes I decided to stop killing them. I'd much rather share my home with a tiny 8-legged cat than with a venomous centipede.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  Then why do our genetic memories compel us to be terrified of them
  - Fezzik 3y ago
    Even if we are predisposed to be fearful of spiders, so what? Not all spiders are the same, and jumping spiders are certainly 100% harmless to humans of all sizes. Why not work on promoting that experience and rationality override any (often mistaken) primal urges that we have?
    - Apocryphon 3y ago
      Why did we gain those instincts in the first place. What is nature trying to warn us
      - epgui 3y ago
        Should we also kill all the other human-tribes then? I can’t believe how frequently I have to say this to people: instinct is far from reason.
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      - marshray 3y ago
        That they bite, a very few of them are significantly venomous, and no matter how easy their webs are to find, they don't make good snacks.
      - gigglesupstairs 3y ago
        May be because of their unpredictability owing to their jumpiness? That seems very reasonable since humans do instinctually stay away from unpredictable organisms/animals in nature. That unpredictability doesn’t always have to correlate with the real dangerousness of those creatures.
      - 3y ago
Fezzik 3y ago
I take the opposite approach - any spider I see inside, even Black Widows, I carry outside in a cup. At least they then have a chance. And Widows will do their level best to nest somewhere far out-of-site and never bother you. I also encourage my neighbors to not sterilize around their houses with industrial bug spray because spiders and bugs are 99,999/100,000, nothing but beneficial.
- RespectYourself 3y ago
  Same. It can get tiresome in CA though! I'll take widows over recluses any day. On the one occasion where I found an infestation too extensive to relocate (under almost every one of my outdoor chairs), I tried bug spray. Horrible. Thanks to CA's hysterical bans on everything, the spray is ineffective and merely tortures the spiders and often leaves them alive but maimed. I felt terrible. Never again.
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    Why resort to bug spray when citrus and other scents will repel them naturally?
    - RespectYourself 3y ago
      It was too late to repel them. The chairs were rife with brown-widow nests. Anyway, now I just blast these areas with a hose from time to time. Individual spiders I will relocate if they're in an area where people are likely to sit. There's a tiny baby spider roosting in my oven hood right now. The two last evenings he has descended on a web to look around. I considered putting him outside, but it's too cold so I just let him return to his hiding place.
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- dannyfritz07 3y ago
  I'll second that they are cute and fun to interact with. They are about as innocuous as an inchworm crawling on you. Except they exterminate bugs for you as a free service.
  - jancsika 3y ago
    > Except they exterminate bugs for you as a free service. Yes but as the majority of hobbyist exterminators must be aware, most of them steal their extermination service. Who cares if the people who exterminate for a living get paid? Is this fair? One thing you don't do by stealing extermination services is get back at Terminix for some problem you may have had...
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TaylorAlexander 3y ago
I think you are trying to come off as like, cute or funny or ironic or something. But I think this attitude is impoverished. Unless you live in a place that has spiders which are particularly dangerous to humans or pets, most spiders are just another little bug that has no interest in harming you. Over the last ten years I went from smashing every bug I saw in my house to taking a moment to carefully scoop it up with paper or a cup and then take it outside. Most bugs (at least in my area) are safe to handle. Instead of seeing them as a threat to be destroyed, I recognize that they are innocent creatures that have no desire to mess with me, and I can serve as a steward to move them somewhere more acceptable. There are some exceptions - pest creatures which nest in your walls or go after your food which must be exterminated to ensure a safe living environment for your home - but most often I just find little bugs trying to do their own thing, and I take a moment to provide them a little care so we don't get in each other's way. I think this mindset helps me be more respectful of all living creatures, rather than presuming I have the right to kill those which I dislike.
- 4ggr0 3y ago
  I'm with you, except for Pantry Moths. After having to throw away basically my whole food storage, every Pantry Moth is now killed on sight, no exception, no mercy. I think they gave me a mild form of PTSD (half joking). But yeah, other bugs get carried away. And I also don't touch cobwebs. I'm actually really scared of spiders, but I know that they'll not hurt me and provide kind of a service, so I'm fine if they hang around. Wasps are another exception. Immediate kill, no patience for these fuckers. Bees are fine, of course, way less aggressive. I know that wasps are useful as well, but I don't feel like handling them when they decide to visit my apartment.
I_am_tiberius 3y ago
That's horrible. When I see a spider, I let it crawl on a piece of paper and move it outside.
- andrewflnr 3y ago
  And they don't go rappelling off the side? I always use a plastic container for spider relocation, so I only have to catch them once.
dleeftink 3y ago
Exposure therapy can help squashing irrational fears, which is what I would suggest in the case of small creatures triggering a fear response.
- 4ggr0 3y ago
  I'm unbelievably scared of syringes and especially giving blood samples. To the point where I get hot and feel sick when people around me talk about it. Don't even want to imagine what exposure therapy would be like for this :D
  - dleeftink 3y ago
    Completely understandable. But just know it can be overcome, albeit gradually. You'll start small and decide the pace your comfortable with. As an aside, at a younger age I shared your aversion to syringes. It wasn't the adminstering per se, but the perceived lack of control. What helped me was realising that 23 hours, 59 minutes and 55 seconds out of the day, I am in control -- those 5 seconds of needling (if that) pale in comparison. Each time became easier after that. I hope you are able to overcome your aversion.
    - 4ggr0 3y ago
      EDIT: I think blood sample is the wrong term, what I mean is blood count/work, where they take quite a bit of blood out of your arm. Not the small tests where they prick a finger. > I hope you are able to overcome your aversion Yeah, I hope so too. Thanks for the empathy. I've actually overcome my fear of vaccines. I can't sleep that well the night before and I'm still sweaty and stressed, but I know that it will just hurt a tiny little bit. Giving blood samples is actually the big issue. I've had two of those as a kid, both times I became unconscious and once I had to throw up. Also had general anesthesia three times as a kid, I guess these five times where a needle had to go into my arm just traumatised me in some way. I hate the pain it gives me and the whole experience just really stresses my out. I'm actually getting sweaty palms right now, just because I'm writing/thinking about it :D I recently went to the doctor because I started getting migraines. Doctor recommended me going to a Neurologist and mentioned that they would probably have to take blood samples, which was the reason that I refused. I just couldn't handle the thought of having to do it again. The last blood sample I had to do was as a young teenager, like 10 years ago. I know that you should frequently test your blood to spot deficiencies, but I'm simply too scared...a bit embarassing to be honest. I've actually considered asking them to just give me nitrous oxide so that they can do it while I'm unconscious :D But I think nitrous oxide is an american thing, never heard of someone getting it where I live. Anyways, no real sense to what I wrote, I just felt like documenting my thoughts about this situation. Actually feel quite queasy now. Time for some fresh air.
timeon 3y ago
Why?
secretsatan 3y ago
I learnt to control my phobia over time, luckily I live somewhere where there's nothing dangerous or large, so I can leave them be. I used to have a particular fear of jumping spiders, I blame the film "Arachnaphobia", I don't know why I agreed to see it, I was petrified the whole way through. I can handle it now, I made a point of trying more media that had spiders in them, from b movies to documentaries to photos. But I don't think I could handle any of the bigger ones in the wild still, like tarantulas, or the absolutely massive Orb spider I saw in Africa once, ugh..

That's great, but if I ever see a jumping spider in my house then I will not hesitate to murder it in cold blood.

refulgentis 3y ago

They're not what you think, they're less than 1 mm lol

jjackson5324 3y ago
I know exactly what they are and I stand by my statement.
eredengrin 3y ago
Not sure what you're on about. The article itself states they're typically 1mm to 2.3cm in length, and most of them that I've ever seen are closer to the 2cm than 1mm. Probably helps that just about anything 1mm in size looks about the same from a normal viewing distance, so there's reason to believe most people would have seen more from the bigger end of the spectrum. Regardless of the size I quite like them, many are quite pretty and fascinating to watch.

gingerrr 3y ago

That's so sad. I'm pretty militantly anti-spider but jumping spiders, despite seeming like they were sent from hell to terrify us, are just little furry big-eyed arthro-bros

sergiomattei 3y ago
They even kill insects for us
- ikekkdcjkfke 3y ago
  They eat the other creatures that only come out at night.. Which do you prefer?
- MacsHeadroom 3y ago
  When I learned that they compete for territory with centipedes I decided to stop killing them. I'd much rather share my home with a tiny 8-legged cat than with a venomous centipede.
Apocryphon 3y ago
Then why do our genetic memories compel us to be terrified of them
- Fezzik 3y ago
  Even if we are predisposed to be fearful of spiders, so what? Not all spiders are the same, and jumping spiders are certainly 100% harmless to humans of all sizes. Why not work on promoting that experience and rationality override any (often mistaken) primal urges that we have?
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    Why did we gain those instincts in the first place. What is nature trying to warn us
    - epgui 3y ago
      Should we also kill all the other human-tribes then? I can’t believe how frequently I have to say this to people: instinct is far from reason.
      - deleted 3y ago
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    - marshray 3y ago
      That they bite, a very few of them are significantly venomous, and no matter how easy their webs are to find, they don't make good snacks.
    - gigglesupstairs 3y ago
      May be because of their unpredictability owing to their jumpiness? That seems very reasonable since humans do instinctually stay away from unpredictable organisms/animals in nature. That unpredictability doesn’t always have to correlate with the real dangerousness of those creatures.
    - 3y ago

Fezzik 3y ago

I take the opposite approach - any spider I see inside, even Black Widows, I carry outside in a cup. At least they then have a chance. And Widows will do their level best to nest somewhere far out-of-site and never bother you. I also encourage my neighbors to not sterilize around their houses with industrial bug spray because spiders and bugs are 99,999/100,000, nothing but beneficial.

RespectYourself 3y ago
Same. It can get tiresome in CA though! I'll take widows over recluses any day. On the one occasion where I found an infestation too extensive to relocate (under almost every one of my outdoor chairs), I tried bug spray. Horrible. Thanks to CA's hysterical bans on everything, the spray is ineffective and merely tortures the spiders and often leaves them alive but maimed. I felt terrible. Never again.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  Why resort to bug spray when citrus and other scents will repel them naturally?
  - RespectYourself 3y ago
    It was too late to repel them. The chairs were rife with brown-widow nests. Anyway, now I just blast these areas with a hose from time to time. Individual spiders I will relocate if they're in an area where people are likely to sit. There's a tiny baby spider roosting in my oven hood right now. The two last evenings he has descended on a web to look around. I considered putting him outside, but it's too cold so I just let him return to his hiding place.
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RespectYourself 3y ago

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dannyfritz07 3y ago
I'll second that they are cute and fun to interact with. They are about as innocuous as an inchworm crawling on you. Except they exterminate bugs for you as a free service.
- jancsika 3y ago
  > Except they exterminate bugs for you as a free service. Yes but as the majority of hobbyist exterminators must be aware, most of them steal their extermination service. Who cares if the people who exterminate for a living get paid? Is this fair? One thing you don't do by stealing extermination services is get back at Terminix for some problem you may have had...
RespectYourself 3y ago
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RespectYourself 3y ago
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TaylorAlexander 3y ago

I think you are trying to come off as like, cute or funny or ironic or something. But I think this attitude is impoverished. Unless you live in a place that has spiders which are particularly dangerous to humans or pets, most spiders are just another little bug that has no interest in harming you. Over the last ten years I went from smashing every bug I saw in my house to taking a moment to carefully scoop it up with paper or a cup and then take it outside. Most bugs (at least in my area) are safe to handle. Instead of seeing them as a threat to be destroyed, I recognize that they are innocent creatures that have no desire to mess with me, and I can serve as a steward to move them somewhere more acceptable. There are some exceptions - pest creatures which nest in your walls or go after your food which must be exterminated to ensure a safe living environment for your home - but most often I just find little bugs trying to do their own thing, and I take a moment to provide them a little care so we don't get in each other's way. I think this mindset helps me be more respectful of all living creatures, rather than presuming I have the right to kill those which I dislike.

4ggr0 3y ago
I'm with you, except for Pantry Moths. After having to throw away basically my whole food storage, every Pantry Moth is now killed on sight, no exception, no mercy. I think they gave me a mild form of PTSD (half joking). But yeah, other bugs get carried away. And I also don't touch cobwebs. I'm actually really scared of spiders, but I know that they'll not hurt me and provide kind of a service, so I'm fine if they hang around. Wasps are another exception. Immediate kill, no patience for these fuckers. Bees are fine, of course, way less aggressive. I know that wasps are useful as well, but I don't feel like handling them when they decide to visit my apartment.

I_am_tiberius 3y ago

That's horrible. When I see a spider, I let it crawl on a piece of paper and move it outside.

andrewflnr 3y ago
And they don't go rappelling off the side? I always use a plastic container for spider relocation, so I only have to catch them once.

dleeftink 3y ago

Exposure therapy can help squashing irrational fears, which is what I would suggest in the case of small creatures triggering a fear response.

4ggr0 3y ago
I'm unbelievably scared of syringes and especially giving blood samples. To the point where I get hot and feel sick when people around me talk about it. Don't even want to imagine what exposure therapy would be like for this :D
- dleeftink 3y ago
  Completely understandable. But just know it can be overcome, albeit gradually. You'll start small and decide the pace your comfortable with. As an aside, at a younger age I shared your aversion to syringes. It wasn't the adminstering per se, but the perceived lack of control. What helped me was realising that 23 hours, 59 minutes and 55 seconds out of the day, I am in control -- those 5 seconds of needling (if that) pale in comparison. Each time became easier after that. I hope you are able to overcome your aversion.
  - 4ggr0 3y ago
    EDIT: I think blood sample is the wrong term, what I mean is blood count/work, where they take quite a bit of blood out of your arm. Not the small tests where they prick a finger. > I hope you are able to overcome your aversion Yeah, I hope so too. Thanks for the empathy. I've actually overcome my fear of vaccines. I can't sleep that well the night before and I'm still sweaty and stressed, but I know that it will just hurt a tiny little bit. Giving blood samples is actually the big issue. I've had two of those as a kid, both times I became unconscious and once I had to throw up. Also had general anesthesia three times as a kid, I guess these five times where a needle had to go into my arm just traumatised me in some way. I hate the pain it gives me and the whole experience just really stresses my out. I'm actually getting sweaty palms right now, just because I'm writing/thinking about it :D I recently went to the doctor because I started getting migraines. Doctor recommended me going to a Neurologist and mentioned that they would probably have to take blood samples, which was the reason that I refused. I just couldn't handle the thought of having to do it again. The last blood sample I had to do was as a young teenager, like 10 years ago. I know that you should frequently test your blood to spot deficiencies, but I'm simply too scared...a bit embarassing to be honest. I've actually considered asking them to just give me nitrous oxide so that they can do it while I'm unconscious :D But I think nitrous oxide is an american thing, never heard of someone getting it where I live. Anyways, no real sense to what I wrote, I just felt like documenting my thoughts about this situation. Actually feel quite queasy now. Time for some fresh air.

timeon 3y ago

Why?

secretsatan 3y ago

I learnt to control my phobia over time, luckily I live somewhere where there's nothing dangerous or large, so I can leave them be. I used to have a particular fear of jumping spiders, I blame the film "Arachnaphobia", I don't know why I agreed to see it, I was petrified the whole way through. I can handle it now, I made a point of trying more media that had spiders in them, from b movies to documentaries to photos. But I don't think I could handle any of the bigger ones in the wild still, like tarantulas, or the absolutely massive Orb spider I saw in Africa once, ugh..