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Can you elaborate? As an outsider, most of the time I hear people say some variation on "Clojure would be great but I stay away because of Java".
by wk_end 3y ago
Can you elaborate? As an outsider, most of the time I hear people say some variation on "Clojure would be great but I stay away because of Java".
- shrimp_emoji 3y agoThat was what drove me away. The bloat of the JVM, and the implication of Java down the road, made me nauseous.
- gorjusborg 3y agoExtreme dislike of the JVM/Java always makes me curious. What languages do you work with that would make Java so painful to stoop to?
- packetlost 3y agoClojure has a pretty well designed standard library and makes (IMO) a lot of good tradeoff decisions for many kinds of development. That stigma round Java is kind of exactly my point about the Faustian bargain. You get access to the Java ecosystem but pay the cost of being tied to the Java ecosystem in some capacity. Now, I think the JVM is actually really good. Yes, it's a bit "chunky" (slow startup times, not very ergonomic UX), but it's very performant and it runs pretty much everywhere.