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Sorry, man, just my personal reaction. I'm with you on Levar Burton and Bob Ross though.

by zwieback 3y ago

waynesonfire 3y ago
What kind of response did you think you were going to get?
- zwieback 3y ago
  I didn't have any expectation at all, just contributing my opinion. I value all the feedback I'm getting and totally willing to agree that he was a fine person and I'm an outlier. Doesn't change my gut reaction, though.
  - turtlebits 3y ago
    The comment probably says more about you than Fred Rogers, but why post something irrelevant to the article?
dylan604 3y ago
To me, any adult that was that friendly towards kids probably had a panel van. It definitely comes across with that vibe to me. It's a very fine line, and better safe than sorry. I can get the ick vibe and make decisions on that without making any possibly incorrect disparaging remarks about someone. It's just the internal alarms do go off when grown men are attracted to children that are not their own. Yes, I'm painting with a very broad brush, but again safe than sorry.
- jjulius 3y ago
  >... any adult that was that friendly towards kids... Treating children as people with basic love and respect is all that he asked for, and all that he demonstrated.
- deleted 3y ago
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- klyrs 3y ago
  You say "adult" and then later "grown men." Which is the actual problem? Also, in what way did Fred Rogers demonstrate "attraction" to children?
- sbuttgereit 3y ago
  Your position sounds like the result of too much media consumption and giving the media, the press, and activists far more credence than they really deserve. Are there bad guys in the world? Yes. But not nearly so many nor as brazen as everyone wanting to yell their story in your ear would have you believe.
- lupire 3y ago
  Avoiding human friendship is a large cause of the division and unsafety in our modern world.
ta8645 3y ago
There's a difference between having a negative personal reaction, and sharing it publically. It's causing a public harm based on nothing other than some vague internal feeling. It's unproductive and irresponsible.
- zwieback 3y ago
  What about publicly sharing positive personal reaction, is that okay? If you answer yes to that and no to the other then you've got a problem on your hands.
  - qwertthrowway 3y ago
    Theo problem is when you say bad things about someone that isn’t true it’s called slander and if it’s true then it’s backbiting. It’s not good in general to malign people or put a negative look on them without a good reason.
    - aidenn0 3y ago
      The original comment said nothing about Fred Rogers. It was "I ... always found Mr. Rogers himself creepy" Furthermore it induced a few interesting replies about his style of looking directly into the camera and long-takes, and parasocial relationships (to be fair, it also induced a single reply with someone implying that while Mr. Rogers probably isn't a pedophile, "better safe than sorry"). As an aside, I'm somewhat surprised nobody's mentioned the puppets yet; lots of people find puppets creepy.
      - pimlottc 3y ago
        > The original comment said nothing about Fred Rogers. It was "I ... always found Mr. Rogers himself creepy" That’s pretty passive aggressive. Wouldn’t you be offended if someone said that about you? “I never said you were stupid, I just /think/ of you as stupid.”
        3y ago
doublerabbit 3y ago
There could be worse.. Jimmy Savile here in the UK. /shudders
- esafak 3y ago
  Jim'll "fix" it!
jjulius 3y ago
Have you ever considered learning about Mr. Rogers and what made him the way that he was? There's extensive documentation about how his childhood experiences basically shaped him into the person that he became. I'd wager it would perhaps alter your viewpoint a bit if you were to understand the "why" behind Fred.
- zwieback 3y ago
  Yeah, I've seen a few things and listened to the Fresh Air interview way back when.
- mlyle 3y ago
  I loved Fred Rogers as a kid, and I am still in awe of everything he did. I can also understand how someone could find the direct, intense way he communicated with the camera uncomfortably intimate and offputting (even though it was an important part of his success). That's OK.

Sorry, man, just my personal reaction. I'm with you on Levar Burton and Bob Ross though.

waynesonfire 3y ago

What kind of response did you think you were going to get?

zwieback 3y ago
I didn't have any expectation at all, just contributing my opinion. I value all the feedback I'm getting and totally willing to agree that he was a fine person and I'm an outlier. Doesn't change my gut reaction, though.
- turtlebits 3y ago
  The comment probably says more about you than Fred Rogers, but why post something irrelevant to the article?

dylan604 3y ago

To me, any adult that was that friendly towards kids probably had a panel van. It definitely comes across with that vibe to me. It's a very fine line, and better safe than sorry. I can get the ick vibe and make decisions on that without making any possibly incorrect disparaging remarks about someone. It's just the internal alarms do go off when grown men are attracted to children that are not their own. Yes, I'm painting with a very broad brush, but again safe than sorry.

jjulius 3y ago
>... any adult that was that friendly towards kids... Treating children as people with basic love and respect is all that he asked for, and all that he demonstrated.
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klyrs 3y ago
You say "adult" and then later "grown men." Which is the actual problem? Also, in what way did Fred Rogers demonstrate "attraction" to children?
sbuttgereit 3y ago
Your position sounds like the result of too much media consumption and giving the media, the press, and activists far more credence than they really deserve. Are there bad guys in the world? Yes. But not nearly so many nor as brazen as everyone wanting to yell their story in your ear would have you believe.
lupire 3y ago
Avoiding human friendship is a large cause of the division and unsafety in our modern world.

ta8645 3y ago

There's a difference between having a negative personal reaction, and sharing it publically. It's causing a public harm based on nothing other than some vague internal feeling. It's unproductive and irresponsible.

zwieback 3y ago
What about publicly sharing positive personal reaction, is that okay? If you answer yes to that and no to the other then you've got a problem on your hands.
- qwertthrowway 3y ago
  Theo problem is when you say bad things about someone that isn’t true it’s called slander and if it’s true then it’s backbiting. It’s not good in general to malign people or put a negative look on them without a good reason.
  - aidenn0 3y ago
    The original comment said nothing about Fred Rogers. It was "I ... always found Mr. Rogers himself creepy" Furthermore it induced a few interesting replies about his style of looking directly into the camera and long-takes, and parasocial relationships (to be fair, it also induced a single reply with someone implying that while Mr. Rogers probably isn't a pedophile, "better safe than sorry"). As an aside, I'm somewhat surprised nobody's mentioned the puppets yet; lots of people find puppets creepy.
    - pimlottc 3y ago
      > The original comment said nothing about Fred Rogers. It was "I ... always found Mr. Rogers himself creepy" That’s pretty passive aggressive. Wouldn’t you be offended if someone said that about you? “I never said you were stupid, I just /think/ of you as stupid.”
      - 3y ago

doublerabbit 3y ago

There could be worse.. Jimmy Savile here in the UK. /shudders

esafak 3y ago
Jim'll "fix" it!

jjulius 3y ago

Have you ever considered learning about Mr. Rogers and what made him the way that he was? There's extensive documentation about how his childhood experiences basically shaped him into the person that he became. I'd wager it would perhaps alter your viewpoint a bit if you were to understand the "why" behind Fred.

zwieback 3y ago
Yeah, I've seen a few things and listened to the Fresh Air interview way back when.
mlyle 3y ago
I loved Fred Rogers as a kid, and I am still in awe of everything he did. I can also understand how someone could find the direct, intense way he communicated with the camera uncomfortably intimate and offputting (even though it was an important part of his success). That's OK.